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Is it wrong that my teacher still continues to put down my beliefs?
Previous question: http://www.funadvice.com/q/correct_teacher_react_someones_religion ; its been around 3 weeks since that happend & she continues to do it, in fact today, she brought a huge cross to school & spent half the class debating on where to put it, then she decided to put it right behind me :| Also, now she brings up god for EVERYTHING, and when i sneeze she loudly says “GOD BLESS YOU” & she spend the first 10minutes of class praying, i asked her why she kept doing it & she responded “I’m doing it on purpose that’s why I’m laughing, I’m trying to educate you” i find all of this extremely offensive & a distraction for the class. I haven’t done anything because I’m not sure if she is allowed to do this? Does she have a right to put up a cross behind an atheist student & put down their beliefs? Thank you :]
You need to talk to the principal about what she’s doing. It’s against the rules to bring up any religion in class, and she’s being extremely unprofessional. Maybe you should bring that up to her and see if it shuts her up. Really, she’s out of line and taunting you for no reason.
at school no teacher has a right to put down students by ANY means.. not even as a joke… religion and beliefs SHOULD NEVER EVER be talked about at school or put down by a teacher or peer…. you need to tell the school bored or your parents..
She has a right to put a cross in the classroom and to say “god bless you” when you sneeze. However it does seem as if she is targeting you and making it very clear how she feels. I would go to the principle with atleast another student or two from the class as witnesses and discuss it with him/her. Religious intolerance is serious and she has no place to make you feel singled out.
at my school both Religious Education teachers are Christians and everyone respects that…they have crosses in there room ect. if she wants to pray thats up to her but not while its lesson time,but she should respect her pupils beliefs not just her own. Irene go see your Principal because its not right that shes mocking what you believe in.You and others respect what she believes in so its only fair and right that she does the same.
she has no right to purposly try to change your beleifs, and as a teacher, she should know better and handle this profesionally (meaning she should deal with it). i would also be highly offended if in the same situationa and would argue with the teacher about her disgusting behaviour. wether shes a teacher or not makes no difference, shes insaulting you and not respecting your beleifs. if she doesnt respect what you beleive in,why on earth should you respect what she does? take it to the principal or try to get out of that class and put in a new one. this is obviously affecting you (and would affect anybody) i wouldnt stand for it, i would argue back and tell her shes behaving disgusting and should be ashamed of herself
As far as I can tell, religious is supposed to stay out of classrooms, period, no matter what it is.
Even if it’s not directed to you in anyway whatsoever, she isn’t allowed to bring religion into the classroom, period. If it’s a mandate by the government, in other words, the school is either funded by the state, or the government (usually both) she isn’t allowed to bring up god in anyway shape or form.
This goes back to the separation of church and state, anything pertaining to religion, stays out of school. Even if it’s indirectly focused on you or not, she still can’t do it. End of story.
A piece of advice? Take notes. Dates, times, behavior. Finding other people who agree with you is also helpful. And then go in with a ‘this is what she is doing and I feel uncomfortable’. See any sort of angry, she’s picking on me, attitude is not going to be taken seriously. But if you go in explaining exactly what behaviors are upsetting, it’s easier to get them to take you seriously. Your best bet is to take a parent in, because believe me, nothing makes a principal jump more than a parent. Especially a parent who threatens to go to the school board because their child is being bullied by a teacher, and the principal is not willing to do anything about it.
It is not allowed to practice religion, or to hang crosses in the public school system. this causes debate and problems for the schools if the parents complain. so it not allowed at any time. however, if it is private school, all of that is allowed. if it is not allowed, complain to the teacher. if ur at private school, theres not anything you can do about it
Ummm actually it’s allowed at private school, which are not funded by anything.
write a huge essay on what you do and do not beleive and about how her behavior is wrong and when she says something say “im just trying to educate you.” :)
Hi Irene, I guess it depends on what your beliefs are. Sometimes, especially when we are young, we either repeat our parents beliefs or try ours out without really thinking about what we believe excactly. Beyond that, no one has the right to be disrespectful or to belittle what someone else may believe. It is one thing to try to help someone learn by pointing out certain references or readings that they may study on their own but an entirely different matter when they say, “My beliefs are totally correct and yours are totally wrong.” NONE of us know the whole truth but we can certainly follow common sense and decency which should be the very basis of any belief system. Your teacher has demonstrated the perfect example of having a “bad” belief system or a good belief system that they simply don’t apply thus should not be participating in such an argument. I don’t think I have to agree with anyone, but I do think that I have to respect and be kind to everyone. That is my belief system. One other thing babe, sometimes you have to be more of an adult, than the adult. God truly does expect us to rise above the norm and forgive them Father for, “they know NOT what they do.” Think about that for awhile. Not knowing what you’re doing? It happens everyday.
Why is it that we can talk about sex but we can’t talk about our beliefs? Why did we even make The Constitution and the Bill of Rights of we have to be afraid to speak? We as human beings should be able to conduct a civil conversation whether we agree with each other or not. It’s ridiculous to say that we CANT talk about something/anything. The teacher/student relationship should stay on an educational level. Never let anyone make you believe that you CANT say whats on your mind, especially if it something you strongly believe in.
Even teachers make mistakes. Maybe you can teach them how a mature, thoughtful person is supposed to act. You really can bother someone who is being nasty on purpose by being nice to them. Try this…”I appreciate your input but I simply don’t agree and I will not debate my feelings with you.” Tone is everything. Be nice but SAY the words. Love ya!
“Practice religion” sounds like I’m going to break out in some kind of ritual. A person can pray without anyone knowing it. That is “practicing” religion. Otherwise, people should be able to discuss whatever topics they choose to discuss. You guys have rights, the Constitution and Bill of Rights say so. One doesn’t have to lose their religion to obey the rules and if they do, they better re-examine who is making the rules and why. Just don’t want you to be misguided and lose your choice to speak about something you feel strongly about. You are important and so is what you think.
‘Why is it we can talk about sex but we can’t talk about our beliefs’ Well for one thing, sex is a reality that you can’t really dispute. It happens, it is real. Beliefs on the other hand are not so simple. If a person chooses to believe in an unseen being that impregnated a human without sex and then produced itself except it isnt itself it is really it’s own son, (only there’s three of them including the holy spirit but it really is only one at the end of the day) that’s their belief. But lets not try to make everyone else believe in it. Conducting civil conversation is fine. But teachers are not preachers. Keep your beliefs to yourself unless you’re in a setting that specifically calls for it.
Um I go to private school so it’s not my problem but the teachers are not allowed to talk about religion and enforce what they believe on the students I know this cuz I’ve also been to public. So yah
Go to the previous link on the question. the teacher is doing more than simply talking about her religion, she’s forcing it on the student and discriminating against the student becuz of the student’s belief. That is uncalled for, especially for a teacher to do. I’m all for talking about religion, however, for one to flaunt or patronize against bcuz of another’s religion is intolerable. However, there are countless people that will discriminate against other’s for their religion or beliefs. In school or even work places it is intolerable, people should be judged in accordance to their work not their belief, which doesn’t seem to work out. So, do the arrogance of people(some ppl, not all, though all have to suffer do to the arrogence of the some), it is just easier to outlaw religion in school/work places and leave it unsaid.
By law she can’t even mention anything about religion, let alone discriminate against you for it. I agree with TY. Politly ask for her to stop. If it doens’t work take notes onher actions and take it to the princepel or higherups. Be sure you’re also keeping a parent informed and have them come with you so it will better your chance of getting soething done. You know how schools are, they seem as though they just don’t listen to a student les their parent is with them
There is a such thing as seperation of church and state. I would start with going to someone in authority such as a principal or dean. You can’t expect her to stop saying God bless you. However, it is wrong to force a certain religion on someone who is skeptic or just a nonbeliever. I am a christian and I think its totally wrong to force a religion on someone. I personally think it’s wrong to hang a cross in a classroom. I mean it’s not her home. You are not stupid for not believing for not believing in God. But this is just quite immature. I have friends who are athiests and well I never would say they are stupid for not understanding my beliefs. I would first want to understand why they don’t believe in God and ask if there is anything I could help clear up or if they have any questions to feel free to ask. There’s something wrong with this lady when she’s pushing her beliefs on others inside a classroom. There’s a way to talk to someone about religion and this certainly falls under immaturity.
It is possible that your teacher may be encouraging you to be more open about diverse beliefs rather than slamming yours. In public schools, if you happen to be in one, teachers must remain objective and sensitive towards all religious beliefs because the probability is that there are many different beliefs in one room. What you may percieve as a put down may be nothing more than your teacher encouraging you to accept differences within a classroom. We all must be sensitive to the idea that not everyone shares our beliefs.
I have that issue in school, if they give you a lower grade because they don’t agree with what you said then confront them about it and ask them why they gave you a low grade and have them show you what you did wrong.
Report her get her fired
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