Prove god exists

Nothing finite can be infinite (eternal). Since the universe is made of finite things (matter, time, space), it therefor must be created by something without time (timeless), thus making it eternal. If it is eternal, it must be infinite, and if its the Creator, it must be God.

The universe changes, and time is the measure of change. How many changes have happened before right now? If you claim an infinite number of changes (which is impossible because you can not have an infinite amount of finite things), it is a logically impossible to conclude we could ever have reached this moment in time. In a world of cause and effect (which we live in), there can not be an infinite regress (an infinite amount of cause and effect reactions to get to a certain cause).

Allow me to rephrase. Imagine that the Earth orbits the sun every 365 days (it does). Now, on Mars, a year is much longer than an Earth year, being 687 Earth days (basically double). So, for every 2 years of Mars, Earth has circled the sun approximately 4 times. Now, imagine that this has been going on for eternity. By your logic, they would both have circled the sun the exact same amount of times, because its been going on forever (this is clearly impossible). This shows the impossibility of an infinite regress, whereby there could not have been an infinite amount of (x) before right now, in a finite universe based on time.

Now, back to God. God exists outside of time, in Eternity. God created time, and time is irrelevant to Him. God is Eternal, not created. Firstly, you have 2 choices; either everything came from nothing (which is impossible), or something always existed and created us. You have no other choice. Take a moment to think about that, remembering that it can not exist in time, that would be impossible. Time can not be eternal.

This thing that always existed would be considered Eternal, having transcended time, space, and matter, being everlasting, having always existed. If you argue this is impossible, I would argue the contrary; it is impossible for this Eternal ‘thing’ to not exist, because the alternative is that nothing existed, which could only produce nothing. So, something always existed, and is therefor Eternal.

Now, for something to be Eternal, it can not consist of time, because time must have had a beginning. We exist in a universe of causality, so an infinite regress is impossible; there could not have been an infinite amount of time before right now, because we never would have reached this moment in time. That means time had a beginning, and whatever created time exists without time, beyond time, in timelessness; Eternity.

So, this Eternal Creator, created time, and the universe. This Eternal Creator clearly is extremely powerful, because the energy of the trillions of stars in the known universe were created by this Creator. And obviously, the Creator is extremely intelligent, having created an intelligent being such as mankind and a world in which to populate with it.

I dont know if I believe that… does your grandfather suffer from serious brain trauma now? Because after you are declared “dead” for over 3 minutes or so, your brain cells start dying off at a rapid pace. So you’re saying he was dead for 5x that amount? That means he’s basically a vegetable. You’re either lying or he wasn’t dead. Sorry. You should get your facts straight.

As for there being a god. I say believe in what you want. I honestly think it’s load of trash and that the real answer to life is something that humans can’t comprehend. Ever think that we’re just here and there isn’t a reason for it? The biggest error in the human brain is that we must find a reason for everything… what if there isn’t a reason? And what if when we die nothing happens… we’re just dead. Just like a machine when it’s battery dies. It’s the same concept. I know it’s hard to think about it but It opens the door to a huge discussion. :)

The Universe is not eternal. It had a beginning. The Universe always existing is not scientific. Matter, time, and space are finite and had a beginning. The Universe is dependent on time. Einstein showed that time and space are manifestations of the same thing; spacetime. Spacetime is finite and had a beginning. Time is dependent upon space and cannot be separated from it. Similarly, space cannot exist without time. Time is essential to measure anything. Without it, space cannot be measured, and cannot exist. Because spacetime is finite matter itself also has to be finite. Einstein showed that matter is a manifestation of energy. Without space there would be nowhere for energy to manifest into matter. Without time, when do you put matter? Matter, time, space, and energy are all dependent upon each other. The Universe could not have existed without time. This throws off the Universe existing as a singularity. The Universe had to have had a beginning because time had a beginning. The Universe could not have come about by itself. It had to be created.

In advance of matter and spacetime there was nothing. How can something come from nothing? There is absolutely no way. Something had to have existed prior to matter and spacetime. This something can only be God. Was there a point in time when he was created? Time began a finite amount of time ago. Prior to the beginning of time there was nothingness. There was no time. God existed prior to time. Therefore, there was never a point in time when he was created. He always existed. He exists outside of time and is eternal. God is not limited to matter and spacetime because he created these things. He is not bound by the Laws of Physics. He is all powerful. Because God is not consisted of matter he is immaterial. He cannot be seen, touched, tasted, or smelled. Because he is not limited to space he is omnipresent. Finally, because God exists outside of time he is eternal. He sees the past, present, and future at the same instant. Also, God can never be measured or proven scientifically because he is not consisted of matter and spacetime. You cannot understand God with science. The only way you can know God is by believing in him with your heart and soul. You must have faith in him.

Hebrews 11:6 But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Hebrews 11:1 Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.

Hebrews 11:3 By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible.

its called a reigion && you belive in it…I aboultly belive in god && jesus 100 % && I belive that the non belivers of jesus will end up in h*ll but I dont want to get in a whole fite rite here so lets just day that everybody had there own belifs =)

Thats what I say to everyone! they dont know you have to prove it! DID ANYBODY FLY TO AN UNREAL PLACE CALLED HEAVEN!?

theres no actual evidence that those stories really happened<

That’s not true. Historical evidence exists proving the existence of someone who fit the descriptions of Jesus.

Some of the events and people in the Bible were real and some parts of the Bible can be treated as historical writings.

But as for things like Noah’s Ark, Moses 12 plagues, or the miracles of Jesus, no there is absolutely no proof at all.

bellamilla: If that’s the case, I’d say you have a responsibility to use this amazing power for the greater good of humanity. Please, start praying for world peace and an end to hunger. I’ll be watching the news with great anticipation.

I do not believe in God. I know “God” did not create life or Earth. based on that I find it highly unlikely that “God” exists. you will never have proof that God exists, it’s just assumed.

God has shown me that he exists. I dont need other proof. But when I ASK FOR SOMETHING AND PRAY, he ALWAYS grants my prayers, and that is the best proof.

If you want proof look at my God Exists questions. God Exists, God Exists 2-The Revival and God Exists 3-Metamorphosis.

go silver wings! he does excist! think about evolution for a minute…ther is wayyy less sense in that then God! billions of years???how dumb can they get!!

devonjade this actually DID happen! why would I make it up? hes still living and is NOT a vegetable. hes in bad, bad condition but his brain works just fine. THATS a miracle for ya

Beautiful234,

Which is it 14 or 15 minutes?

I wonder, if the doctors had done nothing at all, would god still have brought him back to life?

Strange how these events are attributed to the greatness of god, yet all the terrible ways people die around this world everyday have nothing to do with him. What gives?

michild,

Jump out of an airplane and open your parachute. It is air that fills the parachute and slows your decent so that you don’t fall like a rock. Now it’s your turn, prove that God exists.

Air

air (âr) n.

A colorless, odorless, tasteless, gaseous mixture, mainly nitrogen (approximately 78 percent) and oxygen (approximately 21 percent) with lesser amounts of argon, carbon dioxide, hydrogen, neon, helium, and other gases.

This mixture with varying amounts of moisture and particulate matter, enveloping the earth; the atmosphere.

behold I say unto you I know there is a God. and also that Christ shall come. And now what evidence have you that there is no God or that Christ cometh not? I say unto you you have none, save it be your word only. But behold I have all things as a Testimony that these things are true; and you also have all things as a testimony unto you that they are true; And will you deny them? Be humble kneal in prayer and ask him in faith he will tell you he is there by the witness of the Holy Ghost

I think the questioner is looking for scientific evidence and not just fuzzy stories or appeals to incredulity. Rightfully, the burden of proof is on the believer but, let’s face it, there’s no way anyone can scientifically prove God at this time. It just goes to show that we all have different standards for evidence and we don’t all use reason to make our decisions.

“They” have indeed found evidence that those events actually happened–archeological events. ANd that is coming from me who is not a true believer in the bible. My husband bought me this bible that explains archeological and historical finds that connect othe bible and it is interesting.

You should read the bible, even if it takes you a lifetime and see for yourself. I think that if it makes sense and feels true you will believe in GOD and the bible. But if it doesn’t well there is your proof toward a non-existing god. I think we all have to seek that answer on our own, if you let someone else convince you of your response you will always have an ounce of doubt.

no, I dont and never will believe theres any evidence of any “god” at all. and miracles dont happen. there is only the opportunity to make one happen. people who claim to heal people through the “power of jesus” or something are also scams. the bible was written my men, and not just one, quite a few people. back thousands of years ago people would have beileved anything. so they needed something to believe in, becuase there was too many things in the world that they, man, could not explain. so thats there answer for everything…”god did it”

No, there’s no relevant evidence of any gods, other than the trivial type (volcano gods, tiki’s, etc.).

…and it isn’t true regarding historical evidence of Jesus. There is no credible historical evidence that Jesus existed at all.

…why does someone always bring up evolution in these threads!? If evolution were disproved tomorrow, that would still provide zero evidence of any gods.

miracles happen every day. you just have to open your eyes and look for them. once my grandpa coted blue (died) in the hospital. he was dead for about 15 minutes. which, any other person would have never survived. but the doctors just wouldnt stop giving him cpr and after 15 minutes, he came back to life. if you think about it, when a person’s dead for even 5 minutes, a doctor cannot usually bring him back. but he was dead for 14 minutes, and is still living now. it wasnt just the doctors that saved him, it was God.

You prove that air exists and I’ll prove to you that god exists!

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Look in the mirror…

nope just the ‘faith’.

actually, no one can directly prove he exists or else everyone would have no doubt in it and you wouldn’t be asking this everyone believes in different things obviously, with no direct proof any of the thousands of religions are true so its impossible to prove it, just go with what you believe and dont let anyone challenge it proof exists in your head for whatever it is you believe (or don’t believe)

this is how I feel to and a lot of people say they see him in and out of there life

there is no proof. that’s why it’s called faith.