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What murders can go to heaven?
I want to know this answer…I don’t see how you can murder and rape and kill kids or even go on a shooting spree at church and be forgiven.
*I personally don’t see how a fair and righteous god can be such an idiot to allow that.
That is why I don’t follow any religion.*
well there is a thing that we (all humans) call a heart. that thing that makes you do certain things, feel compassion, love, etc right.
well a persons heart is the foundation for certain actions that shows who the person really is. if a person has a heart filled with hate and murders, well that person has a heart in which God does not accept.
a heart determines everything.
if a person that used to have a cold heart as such, but has repented has had a true new heart, a new change. ( a change of heart)
therefor the condition of this new saved person is gladly accepted for they have accepted and proof being their new self.
im sure you understand by now that the God we talk about is a very just God, vengeful even, but compassionate, like any other human I suppose…but not really..
that is why, the compassion.
from someones eyes and I understand, it does seem idiotic if you dont understand that concept.
According to your religion, any person can go to heaven. As long as they suck up enough to your god and feel sorry for themselves etc. etc.
I personally don’t see how a fair and righteous god can be such an idiot to allow that.
That is why I don’t follow any religion.
all sins are the same in Gods eyes, all sins are disobedience. THATS IT. thats all it take to go to hell.
7 deadly sins my @ss (donkey :D). seriously. a sin, is a sin. none is worse than the other. only in our eyes but those arent the ones that count.
who are you to judge who goes to heaven or hell other than the Lord Himself?
one thing we must understand in the here and now, is that all sins are the same, and that ANY sinner can be saved from his OWN doom (since he/she doomed himself).
I want to know this answer…I don’t see how you can murder and rape and kill kids or even go on a shooting spree at church and be forgiven.
understandable. its very hard to see from Gods forgiving compassionate eyes isnt it???
As bro_tony has said we are all sinners. So we are all on our way to Hell. The only way to escape this is to accept the way of salvation provided by God to us.
hat’s what purgatory’s for.
It is rather sad that many believe in this place called purgatory. These is no such place as the purgatory and these is biblical base for it.
There is only one unforgivable sin, and it is neither murder or rape. That’s what purgatory’s for.
the only thing you will not be forgiven for is to deny god and Christ
The counter question: What is murder?
I define murder as the deliberate taking of an innocent human life.
Do you go to hell if you happen to run over a 3-yr old with a car because you didn’t see him? Do you go to hell, because you shoot a guy who trespassed your garden, and he turned out to be the neighbors son sneakin home from a party? Do you go to hell if you are an executioneer? Or a soldier? Do policemen go to hell for shooting a criminal on the run? You don’t think so? Why? If a soldier is ordered to shoot a kidnapped passenger jet who is aiming for a city, does he go to hell for it or does his superior?
No one goes to hell for any those things, just like no one goes to heaven for doing good things. Those people described in your scenarios may go to hell or they may not. If they do go to hell it would not be for the reasons you have described.
So you gotta ask, what do you go to hell for?
People go to hell because they refuse to accept the free gift of salvation provided by the redemptive work of Jesus Christ.
But how do you know what god thinks about these?
I study the Bible.
The counter question: What is murder?
Theres several reasons for homicide. That is the slaying of one human being by another. Which of those are murder an which of those are not? Because it’s not like everyone who kills a fellow man goes to prison for it. So you gotta ask, what do you go to hell for? Do you go to hell if you happen to run over a 3-yr old with a car because you didn’t see him? Do you go to hell, because you shoot a guy who trespassed your garden, and he turned out to be the neighbors son sneakin home from a party? Do you go to hell if you are an executioneer? Or a soldier? Do policemen go to hell for shooting a criminal on the run? You don’t think so? Why? If a soldier is ordered to shoot a kidnapped passenger jet who is aiming for a city, does he go to hell for it or does his superior?
If A kills B because A wants Bs wallet. A killed B for despicable reasons. That’s felonious. If A kills B because he lost control of his car as he’s been trying tu tune his radio. A killed B by mistake that’s excusable. If A kills B, because B wants As wallet and has a knife. A killed B for self defense that’s justifiable. If A kills B because B was threatening to run amok with an uzi in a kindergarden. A killed B to defend the kids that’s praiseworthy.
But it makes no great difference to the person slain if he fell by one or by another. He’s dead. Period. The differentiation is for advantage of the lawyers only.
But how do you know what god thinks about these?
people who kill thers go to hell. unless they repent.
When you die, you simply stay dead forever. There is no afterlife. So in answer to your question, murderers do not go to heaven, because nobody does.
The kind that ask God for forgivness. But if you murder yourself, or suicuide, you cannot forgive him. Therefore, you go to Hell.
I want to know this answer…I don’t see how you can murder and rape and kill kids or even go on a shooting spree at church and be forgiven.
We are all sinners and we all deserve to go to hell. However, “God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life”. If anyone (even murders and rapists) place their faith and trust in the redemptive work of Jesus Christ, they are forgiven. Jesus paid the wages of all of our sin, not just “good” people’s. No one goes to hell because they sin. They go to hell because they refuse to accept the free gift of salvation provided by Christ’s atonement.
usually when a person murders it’s out of the “7 deadly sins” such as anger, wrath, or envy but as the above said all you simlpy need to do is truly accept him anyone can get into heaven seems a bit unfair to those who live their entire lives without isn, but may not accept him but hey
those who live their entire lives without isn,
No such person. We don’t become sinners when we sin, we sin because we ARE sinners. That includes all of us.
Of course. All you have to do is believe in God. Or say you’re very sorry and you wont do it again. Or get a priest to wash away your sins. Or you could pay for it. It depends on your particular religion of course.
in the bilbe it says to not only forgive once but a million times. Murder is a sin so it is forgivin but rape I think would be catigorized as lust and that is one of the 7 deadly sins. God is a very forgiving man so always remember that. We all have our questions but in the bible it says not 2 dwel on what you dont know. I hope I helped
God doesn’t exist, so the answer is no.
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