Is mccain a warmonger?

I just wonder if everyone in the US thinks 9/11 was a one time fluke and that it won’t happen again. The naivete of the American people to think we are somehow better protected against attacks like that now compared to then? I’d rather not fight a war on our land and make no mistake, it will come to our shores if we don’t keep trying to stop the spread of islamic extremists.

The rest of the world can bury their heads in the sand, but remember how Hitler happened, remember how the world sat back and let it happen and it will happen again. It’s happening now and all we whine about is how much the war costs and how we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons.

I just hope whoever gets into office, they have much military strategy because they are going to need it. Friendly smiles and handshakes don’t go very far with people that don’t care whether they die for their cause.

Sure, given his statements on Al Qaeda “taking a country” if the US pulls out of Iraq, I’m willing to agree that he’s a warmonger.

However, one issue shouldn’t be the basis of an election…eg, what if the rest of his policies are “good”? I don’t agree with them - but, I abhor the idea of anybody making up their mind on a candidate given one issue.

Eg, take George Bush…his campaign promises my dad told me have been “largely unfulfilled” because he “couldn’t” get the things he wanted accomplished done. :)

Well…he made the most sweeping labor reforms of the past 60+ years with the reclassification of many jobs, and he lead the charge into Afghanistan & Iraq. Now, I realize those weren’t things he campaigned on…but most of the speeches I’ve seen of him involve the war & only more recently, the economy.

And from watching a debate between him & Gore in 2000, it was 100% clear that Bush was going to make the tax cuts for the rich, even then…Gore couldn’t get his point across to the audience what he was talking about, and Bush refused to explain it in “layman’s terms”.

What’s that have to do with McCain? Simple, really: campaign promises are one thing - actions in office are another. The democrats campaigned on “getting us out of Iraq” but Pelosi is a turn coat. If I could impeach people, she’d be on my list right after the president & vice president.

There are a list of other democrats who are no better, when you compare their campaign promises to their actions in office. Both sides are guilty. However, one thing is usually the case: their policies will generally toe the party line, irregardless of what they say to get into office.

Old Man McCoot is just a big a warmonger as Bush/Cheney. He cares nothing about diplomacy, and thinks all of our problems can be handled at the point of a gun.

thedude, can’t disagree greatly with most of what you said, and agree that one issue generally shouldn’t be the sole deciding factor. But I think the Iraq war is different, only because the magnitude of problems the war has created. It goes far beyond what is going on right now. It is ruining us financially, we have completely lost our moral authority in the world, and the sheer number of people who have died and continue to die. If someone told me they were voting against McCain solely due to his supprt of the war, I could completely understand that.

“I just wonder if everyone in the US thinks 9/11 was a one time fluke and that it won’t happen again.”

One time fluke? What is that supposed to mean. It was not a fluke. OBL had been warning us for a while. It was not something that was all that surprising. Why are you assuming that war is the best way to prevent another attack?

“The naivete of the American people to think we are somehow better protected against attacks like that now compared to then?”

I agree we are probably no better protected now. And the fault belongs to the shrub and old man McCoot whose policies have done nothing to make us safer.

“I’d rather not fight a war on our land and make no mistake, it will come to our shores if we don’t keep trying to stop the spread of islamic extremists.”

And how do you KNOW this? It is the naivete of knuckledragger like you that embrace the idea that waging war is going to eliminate islamic extremists. Trying to fight terror with conventional warfare is useless. It actually has the opposite effect. It has made otherwise moderate people into extremists. That happens when an overwhelming military force enters your country, kills tens of thousands of your countrymen, and maintains and unending occupation.

“The rest of the world can bury their heads in the sand, but remember how Hitler happened, remember how the world sat back and let it happen and it will happen again. It’s happening now and all we whine about is how much the war costs and how we invaded Iraq for the wrong reasons.”

Hitler controlled a huge country with and massive army and navy. To compare Hitler to a bunch of terrorists scattered all over the place is an insult to all the people who lived, died and fought in WWII.

I can not believe the morons who say things like this. So you think that the lies used to get us into this war are irrellevant? How dare you talk about us “whining” about the cost of the war and the reasons. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE DEAD BECAUSE OF BUSH AND THE PEOPLE WHO SUPPORTED HIM. ALL OF THEM IDIOTS, JUST LIKE YOU!

“I just hope whoever gets into office, they have much military strategy because they are going to need it.”

Because Bush has shown great military strategy? You are pathetic…

“Friendly smiles and handshakes don’t go very far with people that don’t care whether they die for their cause.”

What also doesn’t go far is killing hundred of thousands of innocent people. And all of it being done over lies and greed.

“Mccain is only speaking the truth, he is the only canidate that knows what needs to happen and how to deal with it.”

Old Man McCoot is completely clueless. He thinks AQ is getting training in Iran. He doesn’t know the difference between sunni and shia. He needs people to wisper the answers in his ear, like Joe LIEberman did when he veared off the script.

“I can’t believe any educated person could possible think we would be ok with Clinton or Obama in the white house. “

But I bet you were OK with Bush and Cheney. How any educated person could have ever once voted for that mental midget, much less twice. Obama will make a great president. Bush has done so much damage to this country, but knuckledraggers like you just keep going along with it. Well our long national nightmare is almost over.

“There is not enough space to even think about describing all those flaws. But do I think the Mccain is the best person in america to run this country? Absolutely not, However he is the best man that is running.”

Go ahead, just give me a few of those “flaws”. I am sure for every one I can give twenty for old man McCoot.