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Would this be acceptable ?
It appears likely at the Dem. Convention, Obama will have more pledged delegates votes (from all the states caucuses, I.e.: will of the voters). Say he is thwarted by the SuperDelegates (which are free to vote any way they wish) cast their votes for Hillary and put her over the top for the nomination - Would this be acceptable to you and would this bring about party discord ?
Interesting:
Laying the groundwork for a court battle that could divide the Democratic Party, the Reverend Al Sharpton is threatening to sue the Democratic National Committee if it counts Florida’s primary results in the official presidential delegates tally.
Honestly, I would be fine with it. I like Obama, but with the way things are going right now with Bush in office, as long as a Democrat has a decent chance of becoming President (which I think both candidates do) I will be happy. :)
..as acceptable as when Gore lost the election, but won the popular vote :)
Not only would it bring about party discord but it’s likely to start rioting and racial problems on a large scale. I don’t like the system we have. At what point did we decide that the people have no say?
heard senator tom daschle (a super delegate) interviewed last night. he stated that he and most of the other superdelegates had decided to cast their votes towards the candidate with the most delegate votes. that it wouldn’t be fair to override the popular vote. so, I guess we will see.
I watched an interview with one of the Super Delegates this morning, and he was saying that the voting of his constituents is one of the factors he considers when casting his vote. That kind of left me scratching my head, since it should be the only factor he considers when voting.
He mentioned that he also considers who would be the stronger candidate with the best chance of winning for the party. That sounded a bit arrogant to me, as if voting now requires a special political insider knowledge.
Superdelegates like it or not are part of the process. I don’t think they were initially set up to go against the will of the people. It was setup after McGovern, because party leaders didn’t like the choice, and thought he was unelectable (and they were right). But in this situation it is very clear that both of these candidates are very electable, and there is no need to not let the popular vote prevail. I think in the end the superdelgates will go for the pledged delegate leader, but I just hope the negative crap coming from both sides (but mostly hillary) doesn’t destroy our chances in November. They need to either stop bashing each other and both start bashing McCain. Otherwise they are just giving McCain more ammo against whichever one wins.
I think more the super delegates should publicly say this. Either that or sit Hillary down and explain it to her, then maybe she would quit. It is virtually impossible for her to catch Obama in pledged delegates. She would have to win the rest of the primaries by no less that a 60/40 margin. That is no going to happen.
I think that would be a huge mistake, and I think the back lash would be terrible. To have the first truely viable african american candidate win the popular vote, and then have it taken away by party leaders would be a disaster.
And BTW, Gore never lost the election. The supreme court appointed Bush, even though he won florida in the recounts.
3/9/08 - Hillary’s position - Surprise ! Surprise !
How can you win the nomination when the math looks so bleak for you?
It doesn’t look bleak at all. I have a very close race with Senator Obama. There are elected delegates, caucus delegates and superdelegates, all for different reasons, and they’re all equal in their ability to cast their vote for whomever they choose. Even elected and caucus delegates are not required to stay with whomever they are pledged to. This is a very carefully constructed process that goes back years, and we’re going to follow the process.
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