Why is commiting suicide a sin

mouici-just out of curiousity, and somewhat off subject in a sense don’t muslims sometimes die for their own religious beliefs (killing themselves)…wouldn’t that be committing suicide? As far as any of this goes, everybody above here who said God gave us life, and to take that would be against his will is right…there’s a reason why you’re still here, and when god needs you more then we need you, then you will die. Life isn’t a given right and everyday you wake up isn’t a given right…it’s a gift. As far as being in too much pain that you’re suffering too much, life happens, it’s not easy…but there’s nothing that can’t be worked through, and there’s nothing that can’t atleast be bandaged up and it will eventually heal. People go into depressive states of mind, but taking their own life isn’t the answer-getting help is. We all need some form of help at some point in our lifes…and there’s almost ALWAYS a solution. There are no answers as to why people die too young, as to why a plane goes down carrying a family…it just happens. As somebody else says…they’ve studied the bible for many years and have yet to find a verse that says that suicide is a sin…so maybe the real question here is whether it’s right or wrong and that’s all up to the person-maybe it is right to some people and wrong to others for many different reasons…like I said I believe that life is a precious gift that shouldn’t be taken lightly.

this is why I am athiest do not try to convert me please it gets annoying im not compleatly athest I just dont beleve in god I want to hope there is one but I belive in facts not hope

athleta4life

You have typed a big post but I find that is a lack of understand of the scriptures. The statements such as the ones you have made are the ones that have given the people the impression that Christians are ignorant. That is why you need understand before you make any statements in a common discussion site as this.

First you said that the verse is blunt. Proper understanding will show that the scripture is pretty clear in it’s statements. In most of the place where it says “man” in the scripture it means “human being” and not a male adult. First you need to understand that. When Jesus Christ said “man needs every word that comes out of God to live” he did not mean woman do not need God’s word. You need to understand that.

Then you go on to say the logic behind the verse is possession. But possession is not the logic behind it. Man is special being in the eyes of God. God is the one who gives life to every man. We have not placed life into any man and so we do not have the right to take it away. Even if we were to take possession as the logic the again you err when you say that your body is your own and you have the right to whatever you like to do with it. That is because you do not know the scriptures. According to the scripture we are NOT OUR OWN. We have been BOUGHT with a price. Once that understanding is in place you see why you cannot behave as and how you like.

Then you make some statements that sounds like you need not bother about sin. There are certain things you need to be clear about. It is true that Christ died for all our sins - past, present and future. But that does not mean that every sin is automatically forgiven. By death on the cross God made available forgiveness for us a means to wash away our sins. We need to use that means and wash away our sins and it does not happen automatically. We need repent (accepting that it was sin and deciding to try to not do it again) and ask for forgiveness and only then will he forgive our sins. If it was no so then Jesus would not have taught us to pray “forgive us our sins as we…”. When we accept Jesus in to our life we are saved. But it does not mean that you will go to heaven no matter what. Ten virgins were waiting for the arrival of the Bridegroom. That means they knew he would come and wanted to go in with him but 5 of them were no allowed in. They had the lamp but it was not burning.

Therefore in respect to the question suicide is a sin. Just like any other sin we need to repent and ask for forgiveness for for that sin to be forgiven. But once you are dead you can’t repent. So where does suicide send you to?

The subject has been deviated here. The question was “Is suicide a sin?” not “Is suicide right or wrong?”.

The very question of why something is a sin is in itself illogical when the real meaning of the word “sin” is understood. Sin is disobedience to God. There can be only one factor that determines weather an action is a sin or not and that is “is it in obedience to God”. In other words something is a sin because God says so period. Therefore suicide is a sin by that standard.

Contrary to what many people believe or want to believe God the Creator does not control anything and everything that happens. First people make this wrong assumption and the make allegations against the Creator based on the wrong assumption. God is not the author of all events because He created us with a free will. We are free to make all choices in our lives and some choice may lead to bad situations.

Also there is a change when you invite the Creator into your life and submit your life to Him. Then He starts to take care of your life and after this whatever happens in your life is controlled by Him.

Ok there are so many posts here I hope you read this one! suiside is a six, one of the most grecvous sins because it is a loss of all your hope! Hope that things will get better or hope ( one of the three thoelogical virtues btw) that God will get you through this if you ask for his help. Jesus Christ died for all of our sins on the cross however that dosent mean you have the right to sin against God and just think that everything will be fine! If a person does commit suiside and is not sorry and is does not confess his sins he will not share in eternal happiness with God in heaven. That is why there is confession so we are able to outwardly show God how sorry we are by telling him through the priest. God gave us all free will but God does not give us any cross to bear that he know we can’t handle! God loves us that is why he created adam and eve he wanted us to know love and serve Him. When Adam and eve dined God even promised a redeemer to save the world. This was Gods Son! God pieces us so much that he allowed His only Son to feel the weight of the worlds sin on Him, and then be crucified! Do you know that we all could have been saved by God’s first act of love the Incarnation, when God became man?! But He wanted Jesus to serve as our model instead! If God did all this for YOU why would you want to end the life God gave you? Further more how is it not a sin to tell God “ you gave me life but it’s too hard so I’m done” it’s like someone handing you a gift and you say thanks but it’s not good enough for me!!! Feel free to ask anymore questions you want me to answer I hope this helped what you wanted to know God Bless You!

guys guys guys dont funmail please…keep the arguement/debate going on here, its interesting and for the better, helps me gain a better perspective on a fanatic christian and a from what I conceive an open minded person.

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ohh man I wonder which one I am

Eternallife How do you (any human) expect to understand the reasons behind God’s action?.

But then again, maybe you “think” you “understand” that a supernatural power are behind all this complicated acts and in the end it could be as simple as Life and Death, Light bulb on, light bulb off, dog born, dog dead, horse born, horse dead …..!

You really don’t understand who God is

Do you truly “understand” WHAT you believe in?

I think I would have known and understand his “ways” after a freekin almost 40 years wasting on crap! Believers are quick to tell you, to open your heart for their gods, now I can say, dare to use your brain, logic and common sense and you would know better!

There is no hell waiting for you (should you believe suicide is a sin) or for other religions who “think” it is no sin (but have other sins lined up), measure it with self respect for your own body or other people involved in your life and responsibilities toward others and to not be selfish (especially if you’ve got people depending on you)

You’re condemning people you dont know. What if the person was suffering, and nothing could help that suffering? Isnt it selfish that people demand that person stay alive for them? Why do people have a right to your life? You cant stay alive because of others. They cannot be there for you every minute of everyday. They could die or get sick. You definitely do not owe anyone your life. Well your kids perhaps, you put them on this earth and you made that choice.

And suicide is not usually from unbearable pain. It’s usually because the person feels hopeless that things will change, and helpless to change the situation. A lot of people go through unbearable pain. But they survive knowing that there is hope for something better. When hope fades, life does too. And you cannot judge someone for losing that hope. Because unless you’re there or have been there, you really cannot know what it is like.

Really Eternal life, what if you’ve invited the creator into your life and submit your Life to him, and your child commit suicide after that? How did he start to take care of your life and whatever happens, how was this controlled by him? Or would it not be the natural reaction of such parent, to then blame this occurrence on something they might have done wrong against god earlier in their own life?

Read what I have written carefully before jumping in with questions. I said after you submit your lives to the creator he starts to take care of your life and what ever happens after this in your life is controlled by Him. That does not mean that once you commit your life to the Creator life will be a bed of roses. After that point He takes control of your life. He leads you and in that journey He may allow some problems. You would have hard things happening to you but that would be through the Creator for a purpose.

The child of a person who invited the Lord into him may commit suicide and the non-believers child may also commit suicide but the difference will be for a believer (I.e a person who accepted the Lord) it would be something that the Lord has allowed and that would have some reason whereas for the it may not be from the LORD. The parents of a believer may sometimes blame the Lord in their initial sorrow but will soon realize why the Lord allowed this.

guys guys guys dont funmail please…keep the arguement/debate going on here, its interesting and for the better, helps me gain a better perspective on a fanatic christian and a from what I conceive an open minded person.

I think that suicide is a tough subject , I mean you do have those people that have there religions and believe that its a sin, that God laid down his sons life so “we” could have ours, I don’t know if I really believe that , I was born and raised Catholic and being catholic we are pretty much taught to feel guilty about everything so I mean killing yourself could just be another thing that you can feel shitty about. I don’t know if suicide is really the best thing to do but then I mean think how sad it is that clearly they couldnt find there God and had to take it upon themselves to ease the pain of whatever drew them to think of doing this act to themselves in the first place. I personally wouldnt consider suicide a sin, I don’t think you will go to hell or anything like that or that God will punish you for this, God/Jesus teach us to love one another and forgive and understand , so for those who say people who commit suicide are sinners, you are no better for judging them, for not understand and not realizing they did what they did because they personally felt there was no other way out. Dont say theres always another way because you have lived in there shoes and felt there pain.

athleta4life

I had written a long post for you but the Lord did not allow me to post it here. There was some error and what I typed was lost. Then I realized that we need to discuss but we were using someone else’s space for this. So I would like to fun mail you the reply.

If you believe in that sort of stuff, killing is a sin. if you commit suicide, your the last person you killed, and your no longer a live to repent. Besides, suicide is just an easy way out for hardships. Where there’s a will, there’s a way. Suicide is for those who just can’t seem to find that way and takes the alternative. I think it’s sad that a person should have to be put into situations that would make them consider killing themselves, yes, but they should not follow through with it, they should strive to live through it and find a way out. If I were a god I’ld reward those you stayed committed enough to make it through the thick and thin with heaven, but then again if I were god, I wouldn’t put those who didn’t deserve to be punished in those types of situations, or even make sinful, “evil” people to make other people’s life miserable like that to even consider suicide. but perhaps that’s just me.

and if your going to answer saying suicide is murder, and therefor murder is sin, then look up the definition of murder and suicide.

Look up where? In the dictionary? You have not discerned the truth properly. Dictionary just gives us the meaning of words and to understand the Bible you don’t entirely depend on a dictionary. We need the Spirit of the Lord to show us the truth. The Bible has to be studied to know the point of view of God. It is clear if you study the Bible that God has revealed that taking of human life is sin. It would be utterly foolish to look for the specific word suicide in the Bible or to look for a verse that explicitly says “Suicide is sin”.

The commandment says in Exo 20:13 Thou shalt not kill. The word used there is “raw-tsakh” and it means to kill a man.So if you consider yourself a man then the verse is pretty clear in what it says.

I don’t think suicide is wrong, I think some people truly believe there is no other answer. Who are we to judge when someone wants to end there like, thats there choice and some say its the pussy way out but until youve been there you have no idea what its life and not only t hat everyone sees things in different ways, people do what they do because our society does nothing but judge one another, the way you look, act talk, how much money you have, how many friends you have, who your with what youve done, what you like, what you wear, how much you weigh. We as a society hurt people, you have rapists, abusers,kidnappers that have just taken it to the next step but in the end people hurt people and make them feel the way they do and some are strong enough to handle it, some get depressed and seek help ,some are ashamed of being depressed and hid it and things get worse, why because once again as a society weve made people feel uncomofrtable to have downfalls, I think that the people who do take there own lives shouldnt be accused of being a pussy but rather feel and try to understand that some just arent as strong ,somtime the only way out from yourself and your thoughts is taking yourself off this earth. Whos to say that these people arnt finally at rest, comfortable with themselves, they just maybe the finally found there peace. I think we need to stop being so judge mental.

You are totally right Ty.

Seems that a lot of people are ready to throw stones because it seems they really cant understand the situation and were they are coming from. People who commit suicide are everyday people who do feel hopeless and don’t know where to turn or think even if they were that no one would understand how they could possibly feel.

Im not saying that if your having problems that you shouldnt seek help and you should just take your own life or anything like that cause I don’t believe that but I can understand that place were your completely lost in yourself.

I’ll openly admit this because I think something needs to be heard from someone whos been there. When I was 15 I overdosed on a bottle of pills, my mother found me lying on the driveway barely responsive. She grabbed me and rushed me to the hospital were I was admitted and was put on I’ve , had to get my stomach pumped and stayed in the hospital for 2 weeks under lock down and observation.

I don’t know if I thought that was the answer to what I was feeling or not, I remember being with a friend and we were really messed up on drugs and I was angry about a lot of shit that was happening in my life, one weak moment was all it took and I truly thought that suicide was the answer to my problems, that all that hurt and frustration and anger that was inside of me could just be let go of, that if I had passed I could be free.

I lived that day but came to realize that the feelings I had was still there and I still felt like if it had just ended that day I could move on with my life, in death. I know this sounds weird and most of you wont be able to understand it but when you feel like everything is coming at you and you have no where to turn and you feel captive in your own body that the only thing you want is to released, to feel free to feel alive in a different sense then actual life.

I know what its like to be at that place and its so hard and it takes everything you have to get through it , some are just to exhausted to go threw the journey.

I had people that loved me yes but when you don’t love yourself its easy to loose sight of other people. Someone on here wrote what about the families, yeah they are left to grieve and they have to deal with whats left and thats got to be extremely hard but these people need to come to realize somtimes its not about other people, sometimes you have to take things into your own hands and deal with ones self , sometimes people have to learn to let go even if there not ready.

If your loved one has killed themselves know that they have regrets but try to understand and forgive them for leaving and know that they are at peace with themselves now.

We arent going off topic talking about whether its right or wrong though , what we are trying to establish is that is it a sin. Which I’ve actually come to the conclusion that there are a lot of close mind people that are very judge mental about this subject.

We don’t have the right to judge this people how do you not understand that, I read time after time the suffering the families feel what about them..STOP! What about the people that take there own lives because they are suffering.

Who are you to say that to suffer one way is justified but for someone to suffer another way and commiting suicide is wrong. Usually if someone suffers theres other people involved that have made them feel isolated and and like they cant turn to the people around them.

I get that you people think this is a sin but you are not one to decided this, God decides and you know what even if it is a sin God forgives, and even if you people e wanna talk about the evil side on this , if someone was persued by evil and couldnt help but give in, God will have mercy on there soul because they had no control.

So maybe Suicide is a sin but I believe God will forgive them because Gods suppose to love his children.

Diamond kicker - And the biggest reason to why I say that it is selfish is because they make the people around them suffer because of them. How does a mother or a father feel when their kids commit suicide, have you ever wondered? Well I’ll tell you, most of the times they blame themselves…do you see how bad it is? Because someone ‘couldn’t take it’ the people who are still alive will carry the heavy burden of ‘guilt’. And that is a very heavy burden, believe me.

Diamond, this is exactly the reason WHY some teenagers decide to commit suicide, because in their minds they want the people who stay behind, to suffer with guilt for the rest of their life’s! One important thing that teenagers must remember is, is that their hormonal changes play a massive role in their emotions and these might let them “think” at a stage in their life’s, that suicide might be the only way out. It is the responsibility of parents to explain these emotions to their children and guide/teach them. I know of little or few cases where teenagers are smiling the one day and the next moment they commit Suicide (the same with adults). People surrounding them (loved ones) must take note of their children’s emotional well being and help them BEFORE they reach the point Of non return!

It’s cowardly because you throw your life (that the creator offered you out of pure kindness) away due to a whim.

We all suffer in life. Regardless of the many different reasons we all feel pain. Thinking that you’re suffering more than other people is a downright selfish thought, which is what many suicidal people tend to think quite often. Heck, even as teenagers, most of us have felt like our suffering was the biggest one and only we could understand it (just to see how selfish our thoughts can be). What we need to know about harsh situations, is that, whenever we are faced by one, we must first face it, and then we must overcome that hard situation. We must learn how to save ourselves from our own troubles. Most people expect God to help them out of each of their problems, which is why they often get disappointed in the end and blame Him, and suffer on their own, then commit suicide (it doesn’t happen often maybe, but it happens).

The secret to leaving a worthy life is cultivating the spirit of survival…tackle down each and every problem that arises (and remember that problems will always arise, always). Fight for your happiness…and do things on your own, don’t ever wait for God, He will intervene Himself when He feels He needs.

Yeah it absolutely doesn’t make sense:

Take your own life and you go to hell,

Allow someone else to murder you whilst you are religious and you stand a chance Ending up in heaven with your murderer after he repent his sins!

That aside, taking your own life would absolutely go against humans natural fight for survival and natural instincts. Even if you feel suicidal, test this, by asking someone to try to drown you in a bath tub! I promise you, after the second breath you took under water, your survival mode would start to over ride your suicidal thoughts and you would start resistance!

….by that logic suicide is not a sin just a way to end the evil comited upon you right ?

By saying this Gooner 17, it seems like you make suicide out to be acceptable?

I don’t think we must think of suicide as sinful or not. If all of us who had suicidal thoughts before, went ahead and done it, what would this world come to? What would that teach our kids, people would kill themselves over smaller and smaller issues in future (“devolution” perhaps ;-)), instead of rather learn how to deal with problems better!

From a religious stand point, it isn’t the creator’s fault. Horrible things happen because of sin in the world. He never created sin, that was Satan’s and man’s doing.

Look suicide is wrong, there are ways to get out of that situation. There always is. Even if it kills you… wouldn’t it be better than taking your own life? Fighting for your right to live is better than taking it willingly.

Even if life is hell right now. It doesn’t mean that it will forever be that way. Everyone goes through their personal hell in life. Some more extreme than the other. But there is always a way out.

If God put someone on this earth it is for a purpose. Though we have a choice to rebel against that purpose. However, God will take care of his own, if only we accept his will for our lives.

I’m sorry if that sounded like a sermon, but suicide I believe is wrong and selfish. Life if hard… for some more than we can bare. But I believe that we shouldn’t have to bear the burdens alone. That is why God is with us. He will lift those burdens and carry them with us.

*what possible “good” reason could such creator have, to allow a 16yr old to commit suicide…”

How do you (any human) expect to understand the reasons behind God’s action? You really don’t understand who God is.

But once you are dead you can’t repent.

Or why not just do it BEFOREHAND? Ask God to forgive you for what you’re ABOUT TO DO. Or why not do it DURING?

Jump off a building, and repent on the way down. Slit your wrists, repent while you bleed out. There are plenty of options. Also most forms of suicide don’t actually result in a TRUE instant death. The brain is often still functioning for several moments afterward, plenty of time to say: ‘’God… I’z sowie…’’ [inner monologue]

Ghee wiss ….what possible “good” reason could such creator have, to allow a 16yr old to commit suicide and end their life before it “really” started as an adult?
What possible reason could a creator have, to allow his children “the parents” of such child to suffer their entire life’s for this? Could this be his selfish way of showing them that they are hopelessly dependant on his decisions? Cruel I would say! Still a win-win situation for him “Allah” “Horus” ”Jesus” “Krishna” or which ever you want to call him!

This is totally pointless…in the end, I guess we’re all entitled to think of ‘it’ however we want it. I’m done.

eternallife

im not here to argue with my own sister/brother, but because you are, I shall now challenge your faith.

You have typed a big post but I find that is a lack of understand of the scriptures. The statements such as the ones you have made are the ones that have given the people the impression that Christians are ignorant.

this seems to me like your PRIDING yourself THINKING you understand more than others, which you dont. not only so, you have accused me claim you are not certain of. such behavior is exactly of which you accuse.

Proper understanding will show that the scripture is pretty clear in it’s statements.

im sorry, but you werent in your explanation before the last post. on regards to if we consider ourselves men. hence men or man. some people on funadvice need better explanation. thats why it is blunt. a not so good example for ALL to hopefully understand.

In most of the place where it says man in the scripture it means human being and not a male adult. First you need to understand that.

I do understand that. it is very clear in the U.S. constitution of TODAY. but how would you know I dont understand? reason I challenged that, was because like I said, others need better explanation.

Then you go on to say the logic behind the verse is possession. But possession is not the logic behind it.

you were probably sleepy im guessing, but you didnt understand my post at all…that is not what I meant at all. go back and reread it.

According to the scripture we are NOT OUR OWN. We have been BOUGHT with a price. Once that understanding is in place you see why you cannot behave as and how you like.

that is very true, that we are not our own. but let me ask you this. you being not your own, and your SOUL, which was BOUGHT with the price of sacrificing the lamb, do you not sin daily tons of times?? I do, I know everybody does, and I know, you do. that is where the fact, that when you repent (at the time of acceptance), that you ask for forgivenss for your sins, those being of the past, of the present and future. our sins are already forgiven, with that compassion and love, we mustn’t try to do anything that our Father does not approve, ofcourse we cannot behave as we like, unless it is somehow beneficial to the kingdom (suicide is not, just putting it out there).

once you are a christian, you, eternallife, must have THIS understanding.

God KNOWS your going to sin til the day you die. but its not that he doesnt care about sin, and not that he wants you to stop caring about sin, but he rather you PAY ATTENTION, and start DOING more for him. the focus is not on sin anymore, but on working to GLORIFY the kingdom, by spreading the Gospel.

one should strive not to sin, and that is obvious. but the focus is not on that. since the Lord is now in your heart, and your desire for sin is slowly fading, the Lord will slowly transform your heart and mind, into being the example you should be. the entity he wishes you to be.

But that does not mean that every sin is automatically forgiven.

it is only forgiven if you trully meant it that you are sorry for your actions of disobedience to your Father, and wish to change just a heart. every sin is forgiven, regardless of what it is. that doesnt mean every christian can do whatever he/she wants, because one is also recognized as a christian by his/her fruits (or actions).

When we accept Jesus in to our life we are saved. But it does not mean that you will go to heaven no matter what

once you are saved, that is the obvious understanding. you cant do what you want if you are saved. I agree.

But once you are dead you can’t repent. So where does suicide send you to?

thats wrong. you being a Christain, should have already understood that when you accepted the Lord into your heart, that he FORGAVE ALL your sins. how can you agree with me that the Lord already forgave us our past, present, and future sins, and then go ahead and contradict this, inferring that suicide will send you to hell? when you yourself agree that suicide is a sin, like the ones forgiven.

to maybe help you understand more, read this regarding Christians war with sin, whatever sin it might be.

ROMANS 7: 7- 21 (read this on your own time and study it to understand it)

and now

as your brother, try to understand these words with an open heart

we are seen as ignorant, because of our lack of understanding and education. lets try our hardest not to be bad examples. people are seeking truth. where is the truth and love in the example of which we just potrayed? forgive me if I’ve done you wrong.

first of all…

…does it say in the bible, AT ALL, if suicide is sin???

I’ve studied it for many years, and I have not encountered ONE, not ONE verse, saying so.

and if your going to answer saying suicide is murder, and therefor murder is sin, then look up the definition of murder and suicide.

youll find them to be completely different terms.

Also there is a change when you invite the Creator into your life and submit your life to Him. Then He starts to take care of your life and after this whatever happens in your life is controlled by Him.

Really Eternal life, what if you’ve invited the creator into your life and submit your Life to him, and your child commit suicide after that? How did he start to take care of your life and whatever happens, how was this controlled by him? Or would it not be the natural reaction of such parent, to then blame this occurrence on something they might have done wrong against god earlier in their own life?

That’s what makes this believe system so acceptable for only one person: god No matter what happens, he can never be blamed! ;-)

bc god gave you life and youre fcking destroying it..

id don’t know if you realized yet, but god’s pissy. anyhting and everything rubs him the wrong way. there IS no logic. it’s his way.

Your right I think about that to ,I don’t know how its a sin but they say that taking away your life is a sin I don’t know why lol it makes no sence but it just is

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Well, I would also say in every sense of the subject that if you think about it, the people who did 9/11 committed suicide (and also murder) but they did it because of their religous beliefs, so it would all stand in your religious beliefs. On a more personal note, I think suicide is wrong because it’s the pussy way out, life isn’t easy, and trust me, the older you get the harder it gets but that’s just the way it is.

The creator gave us free will, and therefore doesn’t control our situations, or even the way we react to these situations. I suppose suicide is seen as giving up, wasting the life your given, which goes against the ‘life is sacred’ motto that so many religions aim to drum in to you. I completely agree though, suicide is often not taken lightly by the person, and is sometimes a calculated, well thought out action. In many cases, I feel it should be seen as being courageous, taking charge of your own demise and not cowardly at all. However, it is also a selfish act to commit, the people they’re leaving behind are the people that really suffer.

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Oh, I know the answer…

suicide is not a sin just a way to end the pain

Cause god gave you shoes , to fill em . People are surposed to put em on and wear them - Eminem

I have been in ministry for a long while now and I an convinced it is not a sin! People seem to forget about the one thing we have is Gods grace, I am in no way condolling suicide but I am not convinced that all who do that will never see Heaven.

I disagree with the comment about people who commit suicide are in more pain, I don’t think they believe that. What Im saying is that some people have a low tolerance to pain and they don’t have the ability to deal with things. Being a teenager is hard yes and people all around the world suffer daily but who are you to judge how much a person can take. Everyone is different and saying that they do it on a whim I dont think thats necessarily true in all cases. You say people need to over come this and find happiness but maybe its just not that easy for some people, I live in a small town, 130 thousand and I have seen a fair amount of people lost from suicide, I don’t see it as giving up and letting there friends and family down I see it as a tragedy that that they thought this was the only answer. I miss those poeple and still love them but I find peace in knowing that they have let go of all the burdens that they carried. I think when you bring God into the mix is some what rediculous in the sence that God will intervene when needed, maybe this was Gods way of saying this is now the end , everything happens for a reason and I truly believe that if its your time to go then its your time whether your in an accident,disease,murder or taking your own life. You only die when your suppose to . no earlier nor later . They say God works in mysterious ways right? whos to say God hasnt had a hand it. I don’t think suicide comes from some selfish evil place, I don’t know where it comes from all I know Is you cant blame people for feeling the way they do, yeah so they took there own lives and yeah it wasnt fair to others but I mean in the end only Gods opinion matters and he teaches to forgive, so forgive these people instead of hating what you cant understand.

Suicide is considered as a bad end of a Muslim (so it’s a major sin). If a Muslim is afflicted with a calamity and shows patience and seeks Allah’s pleasure in that, this calamity will increase his rewards. But if the Muslim gives up (of Allah’s mercy) and feels unsatisfied with his life and thinks that the best way to get rid of his problems is to commit suicide, in that case he chose disobedience and incurred Allah’s anger on himself and killed his own self without just cause. Allah says:”And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allah is Most merciful to you. And whoever commits that through aggression and injustice, We shall cast him into the Fire” Quran(4, 29-30) The Prophet said:”Whoever kills himself by throwing himself from a mountain will be throwing himself from it in the Hellfire eternally, and whoever kills himself by drinking poison will have the poison in his hand, drinking it in the Hellfire.”(Saheeh al-Bukhari and Muslim)

The prophet Mohamed said: “Whoever throws himself down from a mountain and kills himself will be in the Fire of Hell, throwing himself down therein for ever and ever. Whoever takes poison and kills himself, his poison will be in his hand and he will be sipping it in the Fire of Hell for ever and ever. Whoever kills himself with a piece of iron, that piece of iron will be in his hand and he will be stabbing himself in the stomach with it in the Fire of Hell, for ever and ever.” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim)

He also said: “Whoever kills himself with something in this world will be punished with it on the Day of Resurrection” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim).

He also said: “Among those who came before you there was a man who was wounded and he panicked, so he took a knife and cut his hand with it, and the blood did not stop flowing until he died. Allah said: My slave hastened to bring about his demise; I have forbidden Paradise to him” (Saheeh al-Bukhaari and Muslim)

It was narrated that a man who had killed himself with a broad arrow-head was brought to the Prophet Mohamed and he did not offer the funeral prayer for him (Saheeh Muslim).

Well, I never meant to say that people who commit suicide are in more pain, I said that often they believe so. If they didn’t feel that pain from the burden they carry, then why would they choose to commit suicide in the first place. So to me at least, it is only natural that suicide comes from a feeling of unbearable pain, I hope I make sense. As for how much a person can take, I do agree that some have lower levels of tolerance, but really, that shouldn’t be an excuse for committing suicide. It’s wrong to even think that a person can’t take the amount of pain that he/she passes through, that is a thought that should always be avoided…because when we think ‘I can’t take it’ the pain becomes even more unbearable.

And the biggest reason to why I say that it is selfish is because they make the people around them suffer because of them. How does a mother or a father feel when their kids commit suicide, have you ever wondered? Well I’ll tell you, most of the times they blame themselves…do you see how bad it is? Because someone ‘couldn’t take it’ the people who are still alive will carry the heavy burden of ‘guilt’. And that is a very heavy burden, believe me.

I remember I had a neighbor, a teenager girl who was 17, one night she wanted to go party, her mother said no, they argued, her mother slapped her across the face and she went to her room. A few hours later, the same daughter jumped of the window, cracked her neck on the landing and died…let me just tell you that after that her mother was never the same…the woman is now always staring at the distance, almost never happy, and much less talkative. And she still had to be strong to take care of her other children.

So now, I ask, how dare you take your own life when people still need you alive, when you’ve got people who love and depend on you. When I was 14 I heard of a guy who committed suicide and left his wife and kids huge amounts of debts…how cruel is that? Quite alright, he might have suffered a situation that I may probably never understand, but is he the only one that needs to be understood? Isn’t that selfish? Could he not understand how others would feel about him committing suicide instead?

As an after thought, I don’t hate people who commit suicide. And quite frankly it is not my place to forgive them. The ones who have to forgive them are the ones who now suffered because of their actions, in my opinion…granted, forgiving them is the only thing that those who are still alive can do.

Think about it.

1. cause you cause everyone around you to suffer.
2. life is a gift that should never be wasted on sorrow.