opinions on trinity

God sent his son for us. God is loving, and just. In order for God to be just, AND loving, he creates the ultimate plan for salvation. He sends his son(Jesus Christ), who lives a perfect life, and then bears our sin. He is then beaten, and crucified on a cross. What saved us from the wrath of almighty God?(hell), was it the physical beating that Christ endured? No! It was the wrath that God shed upon his son as he slaughtered him upon that cross to satisfy his perfect justice.

agreed.

Men also decided that god existed

If you ever get past your doubt, God will be there.

than who do you think god is???

I would recommend that you read the book called “The Shack”:)

I think most of them aren’t even AWARE of it…

So how do you know the original meaning of the Bible from the parts that aren’t? How do you know it’s god’s word, because the book says so? So does the holy quran and vedas, do you believe god inspired those too?

You’re saying the errors are revised and mistranslated parts. But we can look at the oldest copies of the Bible and they’ll be consistent with the time it was written in and the errors I’m referring to. I mean since we can’t refer to the originals, but how else would an all-powerful, all-loving, all-knowing god make sure his message gets to people besides many contradicting, corrupt books that were written in one language.

Oh and the Bible wasn’t written as a book, it was compiled by men as a political move, from respected literature of the time that fit the early church’s propagandism.

You said that god used man as a tool, lol I think that it is the opposite.

Oh and it’s necessarily, not necesarrily And it’s doctrine, not doctirine and inspiration, not inpiration and did not, not didn’t not

I know right from write but thank you for catching my typo.

And a lack of studying the Bible. What I have such a problem with Christians these days(make no mistake, I am also one) is that they rely on what Pastor or Preacher Billy Bob tells them, and not what they have read, interpreted, and prayed about. God gave us a mind, and he expects us to use it, though I have found comfort in prayer numerous times.

You’re right. Something can’t come from nothing, but obviously, not even science can explain the origin of the universe, though don’t get me wrong, I put a lot more faith in what a scientist says(for the most part), than some Southern pastor or preacher(being from Tennessee).

That’s what bugs me so much. Use a little common sense people! It’s like me, my father, and my baby brother. None of us are the same person. Maybe similar in certain physical and personality traits, but we have never shared the same space simultaneously, thought the same thought, or been at two or three places at once.

Not to mention, Jesus spoke to his “Father” while on the cross. That one’s SO hard to figure out…

but I’m saying that the bible should have been translated by someone who was given the authority by God to do so.

That sounds idealistic… why not have God just manifest his teachings personally? Why would his allow his word to be corrupted by individuals, when future generaltions would unwittingly be affected?

I do not believe in trinity.

You don’t have to. The ‘trinity’ is just a term (like ‘rapture’) coined by certain Christians long ago, as part of their interpretation of certain scriptures. Its not in the Bible…

My opinion is that God is not Jesus Christ,and that God would never send a man down to be worshiped.

Well, according to the Bible, God didn’t send Jesus down to be ‘worshipped’

“The Shack:” is really good, but it does not explain the Trinity. Nothing explains the Trinity - it is one of the parts of Christianity that must be accepted on faith. That is one of the reasons that Christianity is so hard to accept - people find it extremely difficult to accept anything on faith. God did not send a man down to be worshipped, He sent the Son down to save mankind. There was no suggestion of worshipping Jesus as a man. I believe that Jesus Christ, the Father, and the Holy Spirit are both together and individually God. This is a mystery, it is not understandable except through faith.

who lives a perfect life

You’d think his ‘perfect’ life would’ve been documented… but no… they didn’t include THOSE scriptures in the Bible. There’s a gap of a few decades.

Ok then you are not Christian or Jewish, is this a personal statement or are you trying to find someone to offer some argument to your theory?

* There never was a “time” when there was nothing. Ergo…

…time is not nothing

I believe the Bible is the true / infallable word of God - your choice to reject.

I believe the original bible was written THROUGH man…with God using man as a tool. man translated the book and it was God’s words. throughout the years, however, the Bible has been “revised” by man without the autority of God.

that’s what I meant.

and it’s write, not right. sorry…english major.

So… you’re saying the Old Testament (Torah) should still be in Hebrew, and the New Testament should still be in Greek?

Considering the N.T.(and much of the Torah) at first was taught only through spoken word, should it have never been written down in the first place?

last time I checked, man isn’t perfect.

personally, I think a lot of christians overlook that. but I can’t speak for all christians.

I’m saying the people that “translated it” weren’t authorized to do so and in their translating, a lot was lost/changed/left out.

I’m not necesarrily saying that the Torah (yeah, I know what that is) should still be in hebrew, but I’m saying that the bible should have been translated by someone who was given the authority by God to do so.

“last time I checked, man isn’t perfect.”

Okay, what’s your point? Maybe you should check your previous post again because you said that man didn’t right the Bible, that it was written through man. Perhaps you need to be more specific about what you mean?

Right, so if the holy spirit or w/e wrote the Bible through man then why are there plain erros and views that would have been held by people of that time.. Do christians just over look that, or don’t they know?

thanks. I need spell check.
too bad they don’t have a homophone checker for you.

I think your views are misguided and biased. not sure what your bias is yet, but that’s what I’m picking up.

christians believe that throught the inpiration and by commandment of God, the Bible was writen through man, not by man. the difference is that we ACTUALLY know that the concept of the trinity was created by man in the nicene creed.

I think that we forget Jesus IS a God. we’re not worshipping a “man”. When Jesus came to earth, he was mortal, but still God.

you don’t have to believe in the trinity. MEN decided that god was in a trinity form. that doctirine didn’t not come from god…it came from man. so I guess the question is…who do we put our faith in? god…or man?