Lately The People have been Talking about Guns...

* that’s why they have less gun crime

The UK is not safer than the US. They’ve given up their right to self defense and recieved nothing in exchange.

Ever heard the term “Going Postal?” It’s a term from the eighties that described the phenomenon of disgruntled postal employees going on shooting sprees inside the post office. Post Offices prohibit guns… there enforcement may be lacking… but law abiding citizens disarm before entering.

Shooting sprees tend to happen in gun free zones. Schools… Government bldgs… etc…or soft target areas… workplaces… rarely… I would wager never happen in shooting ranges.

Washington D.C. had a ban on handguns from the mid 70’s until 2007 and one of America’s highest violent crime rates as well. The ban didn’t affect the crime rate. Rescinding that law hasn’t resulted in an increase in gun crimes. It has returned the constitutional authority to the individual listed in the Bill of Rights.

If you live in Kennesaw Georgia it is mandatory[with few exceptions] if you own a home… you own a firearm. Gun crimes didn’t skyrocket when this law was passed. Kennesaw has one of the lowest average gun crime rates in the state.

The Bill of Rights guarantees individual citizen’s rights. The 2nd amendment must apply to the individuals right to maintain arms. Madison’s intent was to placate both federalists and anti federalists… what weight does a guaranteed right carry if it can be overturned by state or local law? The selective incorporation doctrine is a farce if it does not include all ten amendments.

facts are facts, if you take guns away the good responsible people are left defenseless… “bad guy” will always have and get them, they dont abide by the rules. Crime goes up considerably in areas where guns are outlawed. I totally agree with the post above.

yeah thats true I think that guns shouldnt b alowd. it would make this whole universe a lot safer and happier at that 2! =] and besides that I hate guns and have been scared of them ever sense I was a kid. =[

People who want to kill will find other ways such as knives or bombs. GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE, PEOPLE KILL PEOPLE! thats what people really need to understand if not with guns then with something else and the need to protect ourselves will never go away if you take guns they will still be in circulation of the “bad” people and pretty soon it will be knives or razors you will want to outlaw and once you take away all means of weapondry then you mine as well put everyone in jail because you could better assume they can kill with there hands and will do so also as stated in a previous thread taking away means of defense any kind is the first step toward socialism.

yes I also agree with that too. but I was saying that because theres so many young kids now adays that you see with mostly guns and idkk how exactly to explain it but wouldnt you rather use your fists instead of a gun? it is a lot more safer then a gun if you think about it.

yes, but many people use guns to kill people.. if we weren’t allowed, then less crimes.. either way.. proof in other countries.. people won’t stop just cause someone says to.. we’d have to make it a law.

Right however other countries never allowed guns to their citizens and if they did it was for a VERY short amount of time! So the guns were never in circulation therefore are easy to get out of the hands and track down…They have been in circulation here for hundreds of years so tracking them and getting them out of circulation will not only put us in probably atleast a good few million dollars more in debt but will be nearly impossible.

If you take away the guns from law-abiding citizens, only criminals will end up having guns.

Until you can supply each law-abiding citizen with a policeman as a 24/7 bodyguard, I’ll keep my right to a gun and self-protection.

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So are you saying that if guns were illegal then the criminals would be lawful in this one aspect and turn it in? It is not legal gun owners that are going around on a shooting rampage.

Criminals will always have guns…making them illegal to possess won’t stop that…as long as they are being manufactured (which they will be for military and police), the bad guys will have them.

Historically the courts have held that the 2nd amendment of our constitution protects our collective or state right to firearms not an individual right. In 2008 in a 5-4 decision District of Columbia v. Heller the courts did reverse course and decide that Americans do have an individual right to own firearms. It will be interesting to see if the courts continue in this direction or if they will return to the long standing view that states and cities have the right to control firearms.