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how can people deny the existence of God, think about... how can anything exist if it doesnt have a intelligent design...and that is the Lord..look at the sky,moon,people,trees,stars,clouds,animals,plants,water,sun.. that didnt just appear one day. it has to have been created by a powerful intelligence, beyound what humans can understand. think of how humans are, they didnt come from monkeys, they were created in the image of the lord. hope I got that through to some people. God loves each and everyone of us, and he wants you to know him, and believan him. theres no way everything just happened on accident or by science.
"Why does everyone discount the possibility of "Creative Evolution"?"
Isn't it possible that there is a God but that It didn't create "us" but instead created our soul-entity and left it up to our soul-entities to create, through (controlled) evolution, the environment and bodies that they needed to exist in within the physical dimension?
It is just possible that WE are not yet advanced enough to comprehend that there are partial truths with Darwinists, Creationists and Intelligent Design proponents?
"Do you believe in the Bible?"
No!
In contrast to believing in the Bible, I believe:
That God is that Creative/Causative Force that exists before the beginning of the universe/time and continues to exist outside of the universe and time.
That "Force" created/caused the spiritual/soul entities to come into being.
The spiritual/soul entities continued the "Creation" with the "Big Bang". And, through evolution and possibly subtle manipulations, have caused the current state of affairs.
The spirits/souls choose to inhabit the various physical bodies that they have created in order to experience physical reality.
When bodies die the spirit/soul continues to exist and often times reincarnates into another body in order to continue its growth.
The purpose of it all is for the spirits/souls (entities) to gain knowledge and experience and to ultimately rejoin or evolve back into the Oneness of God.
The Bible is a book of history and guidance for peoples of certain times. The Old Testament was meant for the societies and peoples of ancient times. The New Testament was meant to change much of the Old Testament law and to guide the society and people of two thousand years ago.
The Bible worked during the time periods it was meant to cover. Its guidance protected the people and gave value and purpose to their lives.
The problem is that the Bible was meant for past eras and was successful therein. It, however, did not keep up with the times and technologies during the advancement of mankind.
There may still be some lessons that can be learned from studying the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. But, the lessons must be tempered with the knowledge that exists in the current time period.
Man and his technology has evolved considerably since Biblical times. The Bible has not evolved accordingly. It is therefore the province of man to interpret the whole Bible and attempt to allow its relevant parts to fit into the lifestyles of the current era.
As long as they do not infringe on the rights of others, men are free to follow the teachings of the Bible for themselves. Your rights and beliefs end where mine begin.
The Bible is a "crutch" which is necessary for some but not for all. It is a book written by men with the purpose of helping to guide other men through some of the pitfalls that life has to offer. It is also meant to give hope and purpose to those who may have no other way of finding same.
Just as with other fictional works, it is not meant to be taken literally but parabolically. Parts of its historical accounts may be factual while other parts are symbolic. And, yet other parts are simply devices wherein to protect the health and well-being of people of that era.
It takes many religions to give guidance to those who are in need of direction. Some use the Bible as their basis while others use other Books. They all serve a needed purpose. They all benefit the society of man.
Just because the Bible (or some other Book) is right for you does not mean or make it right for everyone else. The human race is a diverse species. It has many different cultures and Beliefs. Grant to each their right to choose that which fits them.
"look at the sky,moon,people,trees,stars,clouds,animals,plants, water,sun.. that didnt just appear one day."
lol, according to the Genesis account, it appeared in six days.
Let me ask you this: before you believed in God, did you look at all those things and arrive at the conclusion that God exists because they all must have been created? Did that then interest you in the Bible or whatever religion you believe?
Or, did you convert to your religion, look around you, and then agree with other theists that none of it could've happened with a supreme deity?
If the latter is true, you shouldn't expect any atheist or agnostic to believe in religion just because of observing nature and the universe. If the former is true, then a belief in a supreme deity after observing nature could have led you to any religion, in which case we have reason to believe they are all true or false.
must everyone be so stupid. can you not accept the fact that some people choose to believe in something higher than themself to turn to for all the ananswered questions and that some people beleive in nothing but themselves. I dont beleive in god, or anything. god is a bunch od crap to be. thats my opinion. I stand by it and anyone who even tries to change that is in for a long debate about all the reasons why I believe god is a bunch of bullsh.it. must you be so shallow? can you not get in through your head that people can believe in whatever the hell they want to. youve made your choice, I've made mine.
amblessed, nearly 2/3 of the people on this planet believe in god(s). They do not have their 'hearts hardened', yet the number of god concepts is staggering.
How could it be that even those who WANT to believe in god(s), still have vastly different ideas about what that god(s) is? The evidence simply isn't there, that's why.
If it were possible to deduce from the existence of stars, planets, leaves, worms, and nematodes the existence of a creaor, that still would say nothing about the nature of the creator, except that it creates.
toadaly: Ummm duhh just think about the name..GOD The almighty one..creator..THE CREATOR WASNT CREATED BY ANYONE..HE IS THE CREATOR OF MILLIONS OF GALAXIES,THE EARTH WAS SET IN THE PERFECT DISTANCE FROM THE SUN AND MOON..A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE SUN...AND WE WOULD BURN UPP..A LIL CLOSER TO THE MOON..WE WOULD FREEZE..
THE COMPLEX HUMAN BODY...DID NOT COME FROM A FREAKING APE!! I MEAN..LOOK AROUND YOU!! THE SEAS,TREES,ANIMALS...OPEN YOUR EYES ATHEISTS>
fau, I agree totally.
Here are some interesting sites :
Science & God
http://www.godandscience.org/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9feXeL-3XA (astrophysicist Bernard Haisch)
http://www.thegodtheory.com/ (astrophysicist Bernard Haisch)
http://home.planet.nl/~gkorthof/kortho24.htm (Professor Richard Swinburne)
http://www.geocities.com/worldview_3/mathprfcosmos.html
http://www.evolution-facts.org/
I don't think you can talk about evolution in the same breath as creationism and intelligent design. Evolution is science, and creationism and intelligent design are religious belief.
There is absolutely no scientific proof that we or the universe for that matter was niether created nor designed. Intelligent design tries to pretend it is science, but fails miserably.
jazlovestoskate, this question was directed at non-believer primarily. So how, by answering this question, do we not accept the fact that some people choose to believe?
non-believers have just as much right to post their opinions as believers.
all of yea jst shut up der is a god I knw cause he has workd miricles in my life. like when my da was dead and he brought him bk 2 life and I liv and ireland so wer all vry holy so jst shut th fcuk up and pray alrit
*** "how can anything exist if it doesnt have a intelligent design"
...musn't God also have an intelligent designer then? I suspect you give him a special exemption from your rule.
lol_thatsfunny, you could have stopped at "Ummm duhh" without changing the information content of your post. Plus, it would have saved me from straining my eyes.
If you choose to keep your eyes closed to His Magnificence all around you, the blessings granted you, and harden your Heart - you've made your choice: rejection.
Yeah, got it loud and clear!! Glad you cleared that up for me. And to think I was going to take the word of respected scientists over you.
Silly me.
Very easily. The belief in God is psychological. No one knows God even exists they assume he does. Especially people who don't have a clue.
An apes body is just as complex as ours...