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Have we all died and gone to hell?
Well… apparantly… hell is the “absense of God”…
How can there be a god… when there are so many bad things going on in the world… everything is kind of falling apart… theres disease, crime, murder, natural disasters, terrorism, recessions, death, suffering, starvation, corrupt governments, and so many other things.
So how can there be a God? Why is it that so many innocent people suffer, why doesn’t God protect us?
If he “loves” us so much… then why does he let so many bad things happen?
If he was able to “breath out the stars” surely… if he existed… surely he would be able to stop the “little” problems on earth.
Personally… I don’t really believe in God anymore… I think that he was used as an explanation… In the past they couldn’t explain stuff scientifically:
“How did the stars get in the sky?” “Because God put them there when he created the world.”
Its dumb… so if he did exist… as so many people say he does… why would he all condemn us to hell if we dont believe… its blackmail.
Blackmail that the church used centuries ago to scare people into not breaking the law.. and working and not objecting to things they thought were wrong, so bascially all the people were told that if they were good people on earth… and worked hard… they would have an eternity of happiness in heaven.
Don’t you think humans would have been able to detect some sort of “existance” of god, if we can create black holes, do space exploration, wipe out the earth if we wanted to.
Sooo… I think that heaven must just be like a state… a state of peace. I think that “heaven” will be like it was before we were born… Absolutely nothing. And I think it is hard for a lot of people to imagine that since everything we have ever known has been “something”.
What are other people’s views?
Yes, He will always love us murders, adulterers and the like. Like I love my children no matter what they do. When my children break my rules they get punished. God is the same way. He made rules that every one of us has broken and we are now being punished and will go to eternal punishment by our own choice. Like a child who grows and develops his own personality and begins to make his own choices. I can’t make them love me but I will try and tug at there hearts until they choose to love me. If they choose not I can’t force them. God didn’t make us robots so that we have to worship him. If he did our love for him would not be genuine. So then God gives us over to our sinful desires. He will not force us. But wrath awaits for those who don’t repent and turn back to him.
No one knows the answer. Search up Buddhism. Most buddists believe that there is 3 marks of existance. and when they know the 3 marks of existane, you can reach Nibanna (It’s like heaven but Buddhas don’t believe in heaven - neither do Monks) Whenyou reach Nibanna you have ended the cycle of your rebirth and you have finished all suffering. Buddhists believe that like… this life isnt actually a life, it’s an illusion and that they die many years like millions of them till they reach nibanna. If you have time, also search up Siddarta (the actual budda) He speaks about Pari-Nibanna (you can search that up too)
And to your question about how come god isnt there for us, maybe he is there but needs you tosuffer to be stronger. As if you wish you wanted something and had everything you have, you wouldnt learn how to do things for yourself. But I dont know, I’m not religous. I don’t believe in god.
I’m not saying that science is irrelevant, the contrary
I’m saying the scientific evidence shows that creation is unnecessary.
I think it shows that the concept of a creator-god is irrational.
If you think there’s proof of god, that’s fine.
people suffer, its their fault, he made us… health, some people are not healthy, suffer there, some people might be stupid and hurt their self, suffering there too, yeah. its the people not god, and god is real
why do we always say we don’t believe in God because he doesnt do this or doesnt do that?? have you trully called upon him to help us in our times of need?? God let us suffer so we can go to him and stay in him.. rich people are more concerned about there money… and they usally leave God out so he allow us to suffer.
‘Heaven’ is basically the end of suffering.
I don’t believe in god, but I do believe in enlightenment, and when you reach enlightenment, then you will have attained what ‘heaven’ is purported to be.
I take God very serious. I agree science and Creation are irrelevant. Science is a wonderful thing and shows us an in depth look at God’s work.
There is proof all around us that God exists and also there is proof all around us that the devil exists, that’s why we have evil.
If you want further proof of God. Then accept His challenge in John 14:15-21 where He says He will manifest Himself unto you.
And hey if you don’t believe in this stuff. Then you have nothing to worry about right? And if I’m wrong then I’ll just die and rot. But what if your wrong?
I am not believe in god but there is something which gone out from our body which is responsible for our survival .when we leave this amazing world there is more fun in the house of god because god call good persons to enjoy and ask him the list of good works he had done for the world he had left out.so it is the usual thing which is going from decades and we are puppets of god so enjoy every moment of life and hope when god called us to live the real life in heaven.I am from indiahave a nice day ok bye.for any other questions ask me without any hesitation
Im a christian but god dose not condem us to go to hell he loves us you me everyone in the bible theres no plays that he told me if I dont belive in him ill be thrown in hell I know he love me and everyone but there is people that dont belive in him dont like him like Satan hes the one that is against god but its the choise of people if they do want to go to heaven or not when we die he takes all of our problems and throwes them away his paying for what we have done but he still loves us for anything that would ever happen hes our god and our creator
good points
I see no reason to take the concept of god seriously when it was obviously developed to explain the origin of the world, give life a purpose, reinforce piety, etc.
and it becomes irrelevant in the face of the scientific evidence.
And yeah, there’s no proof of god that’s why you have to have faith.
If I’m wrong… then… maybe, I will be damned to hell like the rest of the non-believers… =]
Are we already dead and in hell? If so, then what does it mean to be “dead”, when we are all very much alive?
But then why would let people suffer more than others? Thanks for the replies by the way. =]
Let me asure you..there is a God. I know this because of what he has personaly done for me and my famìly. I feel him in my spirit and knowing that He sent His son Jesus Christ who died, not only died,but HE was tortured, HE bled,just so that we can have a chance at eternal life,if WE choose to accept Jesus as our personal Lord and saviour. Let me tell you a story. I was 5years old when my dad died. I have 2 brothers,one younger, one older than me. After my dad died- my mom who was diagnosed with cancer,was left with 3 small children. My moms cancer started spreading rapidly, soon she had to go to hospital. We had moved provinces, and she went to hospital for her chemo therapy. She was so sick,yet she stil managed to go to work everyday. The doctor had told my mom that she only had 5months at most to live. Here I was,then a 7year old child worried that my mom would die,leaving us alone. My mom would cry and pray every night for healing,so that she could raise us and make sure we had what we needed. She would tell me how when she was praying she would smell a perfume that surounded her, and peace would take hold of her heart. She cried and prayed like this every day. The 5 months came and went, a year later she was totaly clear of all cancer. I am now 22yrs old and my mom is still alive. My brother who is now 20yrs old, ìs a new born christian. He used to do drugs, sleep around and drink and party all the time, until he gave his life over to Christ. Now he is free from all of that. Before my brother was saved he used to get attacked by demonic forces, he used to dream bout death and fear. I remember telling him that he needed to get his life sorted or sum day it may be too late. Since hes been a new born Christian, he no longer has these terrifying dreams, his dreams now are filled with love and hope. He dreamt the one night that God had asked His angels to dress His people in purple cloaks and bring them to Him, in my brothers dream,he was asleep in bed an angel put his hand out for my brother to take,just as my brother was bout to grab the angels hand he woke up, yet his hand was in an outstreched position, and he told me he stil felt the angels presence next to his bed and he wasnt tired at all,in fact he was feeling totaly awake and excited. You see satan is such a liar,he wants you to believe that theres no god,heaven,hell or devil. This way he has your soul and his laughing all the way. The ways of this world is not the ways of God. Understand one thing, the devil and his demons roam freely and corupt this world, when you devulge in sin, you alow satan to take over your life, and thus pushing God away, and your sin overwhelms you, therefore all these bad things are happening. If you believe in nothing,satan has already got a hold of your life,and you are believing his lies. God is amazing, I feel His presence in me, and the holy spirit guides me. God will never leave you nor shal he forsake. Google the ‘testimonies of satanists who turned to God’ or watch the movie The Lazarus Phenomenon, and google ‘people who died and went to hell near death experiences’ I believe I am saved through the blood of Jesus Christ. I know there is a God, heaven, hell and devil, I choose God. Are you sure you dont have anything to fear? Hell is a place of torment pain and horror. God created that place for satan and his demons,and does not want you to go to hell, yet if you choose not to believe in God and that His son Jesus died for you and loves,u choose to go to hell. I pray that you will acept the truth before its too late. What I have written is out of love.
Hello everyone, in response to God being real. yes he is if you read the bible you will notice that a lot of things that have been phophesized are coming to pass. Jonh 3 16 says for God so loved us that he gave us his only begotten son Jesus. There’s more read it. I can understand people saying there is no God because of various disasters and so forth, but but but all of these have been spoken about in the scriptures. And to round it all up if you don’t accept christ as your personal lord and saviour unfortunately you are not heaven bound but hell bound Sorry1
OK then… “so he will always loves us” the murderers, the mass-killiers, the terrorists… ???
I didn’t even finish reading it,but…gd doesn’t care anymore. He only cares about certain people,also known as his favorites. He gives his favorites what they want.
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