How can Sarah Palin care of her family going to Washington?

I see the question being raised, How can Sarah Palin (who has a husband) take proper care of her family going to Washington - Joe Biden (whose wife was killed in a tragic accident) was a single parent when he went to Washington, yet wasn’t questioned on whether how could take proper care of his family - Is it being asserted women don’t have what it takes to pull this off successfully ?

Answer #1

I said Buchanan is a racist and an anti-semite and that you could get your mind around that. In reference to your previous post that you were a bit confused. And I quote “Darn, I forgot her name, anyways. I could not find any news on Pat buchanan being the father of bristol’s kid, or what-ever you said”

you just seemed to be having a hard time getting your mind around certain statements and then misquoting me.

Do all the research you want on Buchanan. Here are a few of his more well known quotes: Buchanan referred to Capitol Hill as ‘Israeli-occupied territory.’ (St. Louis Post Dispatch, 10/20/90)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler’s anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was ‘an individual of great courage…Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.’ (The Guardian, 1/14/92)

Writing of ‘group fantasies of martyrdom,’ Buchanan challenged the historical record that thousands of Jews were gassed to death by diesel exhaust at Treblinka: ‘Diesel engines do not emit enough carbon monoxide to kill anybody.’ (New Republic, 10/22/90) Buchanan’s columns have run in the Liberty Lobby’s Spotlight, the German-American National PAC newsletter and other publications that claim Nazi death camps are a Zionist concoction.

Buchanan called for closing the U.S. Justice Department’s Office of Special Investigations, which prosecuted Nazi war criminals, because it was ‘running down 70-year-old camp guards.’ (New York Times, 4/21/87)

Buchanan was vehement in pushing President Reagan – despite protests – to visit Germany’s Bitburg cemetery, where Nazi SS troops were buried. At a White House meeting, Buchanan reportedly reminded Jewish leaders that they were ‘Americans first’ – and repeatedly scrawled the phrase ‘Succumbing to the pressure of the Jews’ in his notebook. Buchanan was credited with crafting Ronald Reagan’s line that the SS troops buried at Bitburg were ‘victims just as surely as the victims in the concentration camps.’ (New York Times, 5/16/85; New Republic, 1/22/96)

White House advisor Buchanan urged President Nixon in an April 1969 memo not to visit ‘the Widow King’ on the first anniversary of Martin Luther King’s assassination, warning that a visit would ‘outrage many, many people who believe Dr. King was a fraud and a demagogue and perhaps worse… Others consider him the Devil incarnate. Dr. King is one of the most divisive men in contemporary history.’ (New York Daily News, 10/1/90)

In a memo to President Nixon, Buchanan suggested that ‘integration of blacks and whites – but even more so, poor and well-to-do – is less likely to result in accommodation than it is in perpetual friction, as the incapable are placed consciously by government side by side with the capable.’ (Washington Post, 1/5/92)

Research away.

Answer #2

Exactly. And IF someone doesn’t share views with Buchanan, why wear a button and show support for them by attending their rally? Appearing at a rally and being photographed wearing a Buchanan button shows support, especially if you are a public leader.

Answer #3

swifty007- Many researchers have found correlations between secure mother-infant attachment and later psychological and social development. Infants who securely attach to their mothers become more self-reliant toddlers and have a better sense of self-esteem, said Alan Sroufe, PhD, an attachment researcher at the Institute of Child Development at the University of Minnesota.

My posts are based on the idea that a baby will fare better from a strong early attachment with the mother. Surely that is also true for a special needs child.

Or am I missing something here?

Just how much time do you think the VP will have to spend with family.

Answer #4

The question was:

Is it being asserted that women don’t have what it takes to pull this off successfully ?

Notice the title was changed to focus only on Palin, ignoring the question asked…oops,wonder why ?

Answer #5

I think people are making too much of this. As VP, she would have access to LOTS of help raising her kids - including her husband of course. Kids with Down’s certainly require more care than what is typical, but it isn’t all encompassing. The biggest problems are related to health issues, “runners” (kids who run off every chance they get - common among kids with Down’s), and the extra time needed to teach basic skills. She would have professional help for all of these as VP, just as she probably does today.

Personally, I welcome the idea of a VP with a child with Down’s. Perhaps this will help increase respect for the mentally disabled - something long long long overdue. Movies that make laughs off of jokes about ‘retards’ are still smash hits! Here in Dallas, one of our local radio personalities is named ‘nard’ - a contraction of Nathan and ‘retard’.

Palin’s family life is representative of what people with families actually deal with - health problems, rebellious/pregnant teens, juggling family with career, etc.

…I’ll get off my soapbox now.

Answer #6

goodgirl, do you really think Hillary supporters are going to vote for McCain simply because he chose a woman? Especially a woman who is extremely conservative, anti-abortion, pro-gun, and against universal healthcare. Most women do not vote based soley on their genitilia.

Answer #7

amblessed, the title was pulled directly from your question description. It was vague & misleading, as the issue you raised was about Palin, not about women in general.

My uncle is now a single father raising two kids on his own, and for a period of time when I grew up living with my dad, he was a single father doing his best to take care of his two children when we stayed with him, instead of my mom & step dad.

The question was changed because, instead of using an example that was generic, you chose, in YOUR own words, to use Palin as an example - read what I changed it to, it’s exactly what you wrote, minus a few words to fit in the space provided.

How is that misleading? When it’s the heart of your question, not some generic example…like the two I provided, of my uncle in law & my own father, struggling to deal with the issues associated with being a single parent.

Answer #8

Goodgirl - you state “At least Sarah Palan didn’t sit in a church for 20 years associating herself with an anti semite”

No, she just supported an anti-semite for president. Pat Buchanan was supported by Palin and he is a known anti-semite and a racist.

Now, what about that?

Answer #9

“Is it being asserted that women don’t have what it takes to pull this off successfully ?”

Absolutely not. It has nothing to do with anything other than this persons lack of experience, lack of integrity, and in my opinon a lack of viability.

Answer #10

I get the feeling that your idea of “proper care” and mine would differ radically, so unfortunately, there is no basis on which I could answer this question. Alas.

Answer #11

I oppose Palin on policy and judgment grounds AND that includes the judgment she has regarding her family. A strong and wise woman is one who appreciates family AND the workplace AND also realizes there are times when one must suffer for the other. As a professional working woman AND a mother, I would think twice before subjecting my unwed, pregnant teenager and special needs child, not to mention the other three children, to the harsh glare of the public eye and to a mother they will hardly every see. The beauty of the FEMINIST movement is that both the homemaker AND the career woman are appreciated and supportive of each other. But there comes a time when you must think about your family or your career. Every woman out there has the ability and intelligence and strength to juggle both while at the same time realizing that to select both means one will suffer at some time or another. To place yourself into a lifestyle where it will be virtually impossible to spend time with your FIVE children to me reflects a flaw in her judgment .

Answer #12

Well, since Sarah Palan was chosen to be VP, I’m sure her family is more then willing to move to Washington. It might be difficult to move there coming from Alaska but, I’m sure her children will adjust to it. I think Sarah Palan is a better choice for this election let alone the Obama/Biden campaign attacking the MCaine Campaign. Its better that MCaine chose Sarah Palan since not only will Hillary supporters vote for her, but, now it might attract Undecided voters, independent voters, and those in between. She amazes me. At least Sarah Palan didn’t sit in a church for 20 years associating herself with an anti semite, or sit on the board with someone that admits to bombing our pentagon, or the New York police headquarters, or have different associations with Resco or Father Flager. We don’t need Obama/Biden in the Whitehouse. It’d be better to have MCaine/Palan in office. Women have a right to be anything they put their minds to. And, I don’t mind having a woman as VP. Go Sarah!

Answer #13

Amazing how many answers here reflect - the workplace, important job is not for you woman - turns your eyes towards the kitchen - who do you think you are: ‘I am woman hear me roar…I can do anything…I can have both - kitchen only for you - wonder where the women’s movement went - strangely Silent !!

Answer #14

goodgirl do you ever research anything you say or do you simply parrot what the conservatives want you to believe? She supported one of the most outspoken bigots in politics for president!

Pat Buchanan’s own words…

On race relations in the late 1940s and early 1950s: “There were no politics to polarize us then, to magnify every slight. The ‘negroes’ of Washington had their public schools, restaurants, bars, movie houses, playgrounds and churches; and we had ours.” (Right from the Beginning, Buchanan’s 1988 autobiography, p. 131)

In a column sympathetic to ex-Klansman David Duke, Buchanan chided the Republican Party for overreacting to Duke and his Nazi “costume”: “Take a hard look at Duke’s portfolio of winning issues and expropriate those not in conflict with GOP principles, [such as] reverse discrimination against white folks.” (syndicated column, 2/25/89)

In a 1977 column, Buchanan said that despite Hitler’s anti-Semitic and genocidal tendencies, he was “an individual of great courage…Hitler’s success was not based on his extraordinary gifts alone. His genius was an intuitive sense of the mushiness, the character flaws, the weakness masquerading as morality that was in the hearts of the statesmen who stood in his path.” (The Guardian, 1/14/92) http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2553

Answer #15

Hey I’m a working mother of one and I wonder how Sarah Palin can take care of her family as the Governor of Alaska! I know what it takes and I only have one kid, and a husband. This isn’t a liberal or conservation issue, it’s a family issue. My other question is if she has outside help, does she pay them as 1099 employees or does she pay taxes on her employement of them (remember Kimba Wood and Zoe Baird)

Answer #16

Why can’t her children and husband move with her? Makes sense to me. I had to move for my Job, as I am the primary wage earner it was necessary that my husband and son move with me, and also my father and infant brother.

I still manage even working upwards of 70-80 hours weekly to spend fifteen minutes each with the children in the mornings before work, as well as just before bed. It seems we can do anything we set our minds to given half the chance.

Answer #17

Yea, the Q is changed a bit, but as others have said, the whole family will move to DC and fit right in to the neighborhood with all the normalcies of raising children, nannies, special needs, those who wander looking for attention, and surely, the kids will be able to travel as never before. School will be a challenge… for a while. And protection…none greater than in the US, just make sure, MOM and DAD, that you make the kids a priority just after your marriage!

Marriage, kids, friends, then career!

Answer #18

lololololol.

Amblessed you seriously got owned by ‘thedude.’

hahaha priceless.

Answer #19

You will succssed this happened to me

Answer #20

I think it has more to do with her kids than her husband, amblessed. You failed to mention the five children. Oops.

Answer #21

He hits my point:

“‘There is a special place in hell for women who do not help other women,’ former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright once remarked. Where, then, are the liberal women when it comes to Alaska Governor Sarah Palin? Liberal women should feel free to oppose Palin’s candidacy on policy grounds – but they have the moral obligation to defend Palin from such sexist attacks.”

  • Columnist Ben Shapiro
Answer #22

And Biden’s wife died after he was elected. He did not choose to take an office knowing the dificulting he was having. In fact he initially was going to give up his seat, but was asked by fellow senators to stay. He then made a commitment not to live in DC, and took the train home every night to Delaware, so his kids could have some level of normalcy after such a tragedy. Palin is choosing to put her family through this. She has an infant with special needs, and a daughter going through the most difficult time in her life, but she is choosing to pursue her carreer instead of doing what is best for a family.

And the GOP is supposed to be the party of family values.

Answer #23

Five children.

One of whom is pregnant at 17, and one of whom has a serious illness…tell me, does that profile fit Joe Biden? Nope, not at all.

So why make the comparison, as it’s completely flawed? I have two kids myself, and they take a TON of time. As a result, I only work 40 hours a week. Vice Presidents are expected to work more than that.

Added: Biden is the father of three children.

From his bio page…5 kids, compared to 3, that’s 67% more time if you spend the same number of hours with each child. Or should she go against the party mantra, and indeed “leave a child behind”?

Answer #24

Toadaly, I would agree with everything you said about a vp with a disabled child, and the attention it could bring, but this child is only 4 months old. I would want to be with my child pretty constantly if it were me. As you pint out, she will not be raising her own child. And then add to that (as utopia put so eloquently), she is now going to allow her young, already stresse-out daughter, to be put under a microscope, all because of her ambition. And McCain just as responsible if he knew about this before picking her.

I ask again, is this what the gop calls family values?

Answer #25

sorry, rickd, ed schultz? if that is a show, it might just be carried in your area. Radio, or tv?

Answer #26

“Most women do not vote based soley on their genitilia.”

Hands down, the best statement EVER.

Answer #27

I don’t listen to right or left wing propaganda radio or tv. I find both lack intelligence and substance so I don’t waste my time. Palin supported Buchanan in his 2000 run for president. Buchanan is a racist and an anit-semite. Bet you can get your mind around that.

Answer #28

First of all, Down’s syndrome is not a serious illness as stated by one ill informed person. It is not an illness at all. So I discount what that person has said because of his lack of knowledge. As the mother of a severely disabled son (for 40 years) and as a disability activist for 35 years, I think I understand this issue very well. First of all, no one ever posed this question to George Will or Sen. Lowell Weicker. Of course not, they’re men. But Sarah Palin is being held to another standard. I am sure she can go to Washington and care for her family at the same time. As a matter of fact, her children, including her youngest son, will probably be more stimulated and have a more interesting life. Children with disabilities need to have real life experiences, not be closeted at home with Mom. Of this I am sure. Many of the comments posted seem to be coming from a mentality of the 50’s. Things have changed. Children with disabilities are in schools, on playgrounds, in school plays - participating with non disabled children. Let’s not return to the old mentality where children with disabilities were hidden away at home or in institutions. Sarah Palin will do an extraordinary job and will help the rest of us who are raising or taking care of children with disabilities. She has pledged to do this and mothers like myself will hold her to that promise.

Answer #29

Joe Biden traveled home every evening to be with his children. Also his two children were young, but not infants.

I see a tremendous difference between Biden and Palin. Palin has five children, the youngest 5 months old and a special needs child. As VP she will not be able to commute each night to be with her children.

I have this to say from a previous question.

I have no problem with the fact that Palin’s daughter is pregnant. Kids are kids and no matter how you try, they do what they want. Any of us with children could be in Palin’s position.

What I have a problem with, and hear me out, is a mother that would subject her un-wed, pregnant daughter to the scrutiny of a national campaign and would decide to run for VP having a young baby with downs syndrome. It is challenging enough to raise a baby when you are traveling all over the country but to try to raise a baby with special needs while traveling all over the country is next to impossible, unless you allow others to raise that child.

As a mother, I have a problem with this. There have been many opportunities in my life that I have turned down because they would have taken me away from my child when he was young. I am a progressive, liberal, intelligent, highly educated woman but with this I take issue. When I gave birth to my two children, one died when very young, I knew that I was making a decision and that my children were a priority, especially while young. A special needs child is exactly that, a child with special needs and a un-wed pregnant young woman doesn’t need the added stress of 24/7 reporters following her and reporting on her every movement.

And for those of you who know a little about me, you know that I would feel the same no matter if the mother was a liberal or a conservative.

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