Bible, fiction or non?

“how do we really know. It has been edited so many times that what really was there is no longer there.” We don’t. This is why many Christians, dont even follow the bible word for word anymore. It was written by man, who’s to say that people didn’t add their own things in there.

“Also that people had heard the word of good, well could they just be crazy or something, because how come he doesnt talk us then?” In my opinion, I think if someone wants to hear something bad enough, they will. It’s almost like a hallucination. They trick themselves into hearing what they want to.

“also that the bible can sexist” Look at the time period it was written in, of course it’s sexist. That’s how things were back then. The bible also says that women should never adorn themselves with gold or pearls, that’s a bit ridiculous and not in the least bit followed.

I think if people want to believe in God, that’s great for them. They have their faith and they are happy and who are we to tell them any different. I however, can’t make myself believe in something so silly with no proof to back it up. I have no faith. I think the bible is a ridiculous thing to follow though, seeing as how it was not written by god himself so we have no idea if it’s the truth. They also have many different translations and theroies as to what things mean, so how are you supposed to know which one is right.

I agree with jesusismysaviour, but on one thing: We are not gods, yes we were made in gods image, but we aren’t gods in any sense.

since you want to play that way, 2.1 billion out of over 6BILLION Would over 4billion people be wrong?

It seems that no one has any problem. believing… what the nay sayers have to say about the bible, such as the claims that you mention.

I googled how many Christians are in the world today, and the answer came back at 2.1 billon…

do you believe that many people are wrong???

I think it should be used like an owners manual. It’s a guide to help you through life and I think its a bit of a reach to say it’s accurate and Gods word. If you put 100 people in a room and one person tells a story and says pass it on by the time it gets back to the start it’s going to be different and changed!

We don’t really need to know anything at all about the Bible (other than that it’s a book), to know that men write books, and gods don’t. Therefor no god wrote it.

If there were any gods out there trying to communicate with us, doing so via bizzare ancient books written in an age of rampant superstition, would be about the dumbest way imaginable to do so.

I don’t see how the crusades & witch burnings were taken out of contest. Here’s a question, if god is the only flawless being & the bible was written by men wouldn’t that make it flawed? There’s already been discoveries of mistranslations & things proven false. But then again if we’re made in the image of God wouldn’t that mean he’s flawed like us? & no, women were never equal to men in the bible, try re-reading it. Heck, even in the myth of Lilith & Adam they weren’t =, that’s why Lilith left Adam.

I was once Christian, so don’t worry, I wont call you names either, know how it is to be blind.

the bible cant be correct. if you believe it teaches morals then whats with the crusades, and witch burnings, im with you I think its been edtied so many times that even if God existed then it couldn’t be his word. it teaches sexism, raceism, murder of so called lesser humans. that book is a book of hate no love.

every sect of christanity has a differnt interptation of the bible, and everyone has a different view on whats literal and whats figurtive.

I think your are on to discovering yourself. you seem to be on a path of wanting to know more. however taking things literally in the bible is dangerous because it is in a time of history when things where totally different and stories can not be taken literally. times where also violent, so if you want to really understand it take a class, but I think the end of what you wrote makes you a smart and good person.

Most of the Bible is fiction, with some references to actual historical events and people.

Yes the bible is real. He doesnt speak to YOU because maybe you dont listen. I know plenty of female pastors but then again I am not catholic. the bible was written by man, but was inspired and written because god wanted it to be. The bible has been edited many times (I have four study bibles) but they say the same thing. my church and I dont use our belief as a scare tactic. If you listen and believe great all of heaven is rejoicing if not I get sad because I don’t want you to perish. I wont call you any names because I once didnt believe and I know what its like. God made women subject to man when sin happened we were equal once. but just as the bible says that women answer to men it also says how men should treat women because men have to answer to god. We are made in the lords image so we are gods just not the most high. sometimes people take the bible out of context for example the crusades and witch trials and even imperialism. but it does not reflect the views of all bible believers. Just as other religions and viewpoints have people that contradict their very belief. So the bible and God Jesus and the holy spirit are very real to me. Hopefully one day you understand. God loves you. bye.

Honestly most of the people talking above have never actually read the bible. Or know anything about probabilities, or mathematics. If you did read the bible then you’d know that it should have a warning label on it. Probably something like this.

WARNING: This is a work of fiction. Do NOT take it literally.

CONTENT ADVISORY: Contains verses descriptive or advocating suicide, incest, bestiality, sadomasochism, sexual activity in a violent context, murder, morbid violence, use of drugs or alcohol, homosexuality, voyeurism, revenge, undermining of authority figures, lawlessness, and human rights violations and atrocities.

EXPOSURE WARNING: Exposure to contents for extended periods of time or during formative years in children may cause delusions, hallucinations, decreased cognitive and objective reasoning abilities, and, in extreme cases, pathological disorders, hatred, bigotry, and violence including, but not limited to fanaticism, murder, and genocide.

And if you know anything about probabilities then you’d know that religion is jsut something made up. Like Harry Potter.

And also I got really bored one night and figured out the mathematical probability of there actually being an all knowing, god like, whatever you wanna call it. Here is what I got 0.00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, etc. etc. Until my computer had filled over 140,000 pages with zeros and still hadn’t come up with anything other than a zero.

You actually have a higher probability of an ICBM turning into herring sandwich mid flight than there actually being a god. It’s 5,018 pages of zeros ending in 842.

So after long hours of crunching numbers and waiting. And a long story short I can tell you what the probability is that 2.1 billion people are wrong. it’s 1.0

It seems like people can fight about this forever. Non-believers simply say it (the Bible) must be a hoax, while non-believers who have actually read the bible may take things out of context to try to win Christians over. Meanwhile most Christians have not even read the Bible, and most of those who have merely gained a weak understanding of what was written in it, and are forced to fallback on “ you must have faith “ to win arguments, because they do not have the necessary answers.

Although a waste of time, it is very amusing to read and occasionally post on threads like this one.

ah. but u c? u do have faith. u have faith there is no god, u can do what u want and act how u determine. u base ur life around that. so u c, we all have a faith. there is only one true faith though, and that is faith in God and in Jesus Christ as ur Lord and Saviour.

read a lee strobel book.

Look, when Christians act hypocritical, they arent always aware of it. i have done that a number of times. and, no, Mary was not a prostitute and i suggest u read up on that b4 u go putting out crap for others to believe.

all Scripture is God breathed, meaning inspired, not written. also, God has done several occasions of writing HImself. and if the past was superstitious, what would u call today?

that is bandwagon theory. yes they would.