Are they taking it too far?

Well, if it wasn’t a law, you should NOT have stated that it was… and if you do not know why there are no merry christmas signs in ALL of England, then what was the point of asking a misleading question in the first place. And as for there being NO merry christmas stuff in ENGLAND… BAH and HUMBUG that is incorrect.

Spartan512,

“People need to accept it, and let it go.”

It is that perception that allowed the Nazi’s to come to power allowing for the following atrocities.

It is only when individual members of society challenge unjust laws and actions that violate the privacy and freedom of the individual that societies can be free and individuals can prosper.

Sorry, Beth, didn’t mean to get off topic.

If Britain has made such a law then it is anti individual expression. Britain would be better off allowing such divergences of culture which promotes the understanding and acceptance of “other” cultures. It is only when people learn about and experience the uniqueness of other cultures that the various cultures can come together as a whole working for the benefit of the whole country.

        Simply a Rose to brighten your day,         And maybe lessen the cares in your way;         And also, too, to help you to know,         That in knowing you, many others grow!

That’s interesting. When I lived in Turkey, it wasn’t uncommon to see nativity scenes, Santa Clauses, and other public Christmas decorations even though it’s an overwhelmingly Muslim country. I found out that while most Turks don’t celebrate Christmas, they recognize the holiday partly because the St. Nicholas legend was loosely based on a man from modern day Turkey.

Anyway, private and commercial expressions of religion don’t bother me so long as they don’t violate the religious freedom of others. Signs in a store or symbols on a TV show fall into this category. It’s when religion becomes entangled in government policies and laws, public institutions, or involves taxpayer funding that it becomes a problem.

“In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell “Merry Christmas” signs.”

I’m fairly certain that there’s no such law. If you’re going to claim there is, perhaps you could link us to the relevant legislation? If not, there’s nothing to get upset about.

“I think its way too far. People trying to take the “under god” from the pledge of allegiance… Come on people, just let it go.”

‘under god’ was only added to the pledge of allegiance recently. Given that your country explicitly enforces separation of church and state, and given that the pledge was fine without that phrase for a couple of hundred years, wanting to remove it again doesn’t seem unreasonable.

The people who are behind this movement, are Atheists, who want to remove every mention of Christ from our consciencesness…they think by doing so, they will completly remove Gods influence from our society. They believe they are winning, however, history proves them wrong, because everytime persecution comes to the church… it multiplies.

God always has the last say.

I think its really uncalled for if we went over to Pakistan and started dictating over there they would burn effergies of us. At the end of the day England is so easy to get in to and offers so many benefits the government have made a rod for their own back and now we all have to suffer. They should respect our beliefs and our customs and traditions as we would respect theirs if we were in our country

Odd, the Brits I know usually say “Happy Christmas” rather than the more American “Merry Christmas.” Are you sure this law wasn’t to prevent Americanisms from creeping into the British lexicon rather than not offending Muslims? ;)

I’m not that familiar with British law so I can’t really comment here. In the US such things would violate our 1st amendment protections.

Did I state is was a law? No. You interpreted it as that although I did not say “it is a law”. I have told you but will tell you again- the reason why they are unable to sell them is so they do not offend other religions. I do not know who made the decision but that is the reason why. I am constantly repeating myself but you are not listening. I don’t know how I can make it any clearer.

Beth

Lets not start a racial dispute. We’re all one I my eyes- everyone’s equal.

No, it’s not a law. My mum tried to find one in December but couldn’t find on any were. My mums boyfriend then explained the situation. I understand we have to accept other cultures and religions and I’m totally fine with that but when our own culture is jeopardized? We shouldn’t need to change. I’m sure other religions wouldn’t be offended. Maybe the government is just a little to precautious

I love how certain christians try to play the persecution card. really, folks, it just doesnlt fly. you make up the majority of the population of the us, and the things youlre trying to cry persecution over are obvious blatant violations of separation of church and state. Give it a rest! you can’t be both the persecuted underdog and the predominant ideological view.

O_o thats weird…

I think it was a very dumb thing to do… >_> the corner shop owners wouldnt hide their little kurans or the other muslim stuff they have around there ust because they are in britain…

sigh shame british politics are going down the drain just from senseless fear…

Attempts are being made to extinguish anything Christian - not surprising, see the book of Revelation but Christian’s need not fear - reminds me of part of one of my favorite song lyrics: ‘The wicked oppressing, now cease from distressing, sing Praises to His name…He forgets NOT his own’, Amen !!

“In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell “Merry Christmas” signs. The decision came because they don’t want to offend Muslims living in Britain.”

Using the word “UNABLE” indicates that they are being PREVENTED from selling them.

Using the word “DECIDED” would indicate what is actually happening.

Let me get this straight… you state that in Britain, shops are no longer “allowed” to sell merry christmas signs. Then you state it is not a law, maybe the shops are “selecting” not to sell the signs.

Are you trying to be inflamatory?

Now you state that the words to “we wish you a merry christmas” have been changed. To what?

really? they do that? well I’m a muslim, and I wouldn’t be offended. we also have christmas signs selling in my country, why would they do that in britain.

I think its way too far. People trying to take the “under god” from the pledge of allegiance… Come on people, just let it go.

People need to accept it, and let it go.

they–are–taking–it–a–bit–too–far… if they are really good people like muslims, maybe they should accept other people’s beliefs like you do. I mean, come on, you mind your own business, they mind their own business. that simple

It is a bit far. I wouldn’t really care about the symbol if I don’t worship it. It is stupid.

Ok. Thank you for the tip. I will keep it in mind for future reference.

I’m confused? so there is or there isnt a law?

I cant find any mention of it online

So I’m still a little confused… if there’s no law, then what exactly prevents people from selling the signs?

All I know is that you will not find “merry Christmas” signs in England anymore because “someone” whether it be the government or the shops (that I do not know) is not letting it happen. I can not tell you what I do not know. Will you stop nit picking at my mistakes. I admit I may not have explained the question properly. So you can leave me alone now. Thank you.

Utopia- I can see why you are getting confused. I admit I didn’t explain myself 100%. But I will say it again- it is not a law. But they are not available anymore.

No I am not tying to be “inflammatory”. I just wondered if people thought these things were ok. I was curious about peoples opinions- curiosity is part of the human brain.

They have been changed to “We wish you a happy holiday”

As far as I no it ISN’T a law. Whether the shops made a conscious decision or what I don’t know? But we looked in 3 neighboring towns and no signs.

I’ve just been researching this and it seems certain American shops are following suit… workers in Wendy’s aren’t allowed to “Merry Christmas” they have to say happy Holidays. Whataburger Restaurant’s headquarters decided not to put up any decorations in store. The words to “we wish you a merry Christmas have been changed”

* In Britain we are no longer allowed to sell “Merry Christmas” signs.

If there’s any truth to this, perhaps Britain should take a lesson from a former colony and formally protect free speech.

That is taking it too far. I can’t understand why everyone is so concerned with not offending anyone. Who cares if someone is a little bit offended from time to time? Its not the end of the world. As long as you’re free to practice whatever religion you choose, just get over it if not everyone agrees with you and wants to show a different religion in public or on television.