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Why is it that when a woman chooses to have a child the man has to pay her support?
Never seemed fair to me. If a woman choose to keep a child in spite of the biological father’s objections I don’t think he should have to pay. If both parents decide to keep the child and they split I can see child support but if the man does not want to be a parent from the beginning he shouldn’t be forced to support the child.
It’s the “I should have wrapped it up tax”.
if ur talking about child support its because the man needs to help pay cuz he help the lady get pregnant now he needs to be a man and help take care of the kid.
I agree - as long as he’s the one who will undergo the pregnancy or the abôrtion, as he chooses.
Personally, I feel, in a way it’s sort of a responsibility. A man can walk away from a pregnancy easily, but a woman can’t. It’s happening TO the woman, the woman can get attached, along with that, not every person believes in ab.ortion. On top of that the pregnancy is the result of a man and woman having intercourse, not the woman alone.
Although the mother decided to keep the child, he is still the father of the child. He also chose to have sex so with sex comes the possibility of a child.
But its the same way, if the guy takes the kid, the woman has to pay support too. It’s there because its like, a punishment for them walking out on the kid kinda. They think if they leave they don’t have to worry about it, so they made Child support, because it takes 2 to make the baby, not one (well usually not one)
but what if he never wanted the child. seriously it was always known he doesn’t want kids. the woman decided to have the baby then to keep it after born. during which the man was just like no don’t. why is it his fault he had his decision and the woman forced him to be a father
Having a child is not like playing simm city on your computer; there are lasting responsibilities that have to addressed if the relationship disolves. Here in New York the State use to care for single women and their children but that got too expensive really quick (several decades). Everybody today is aware that unprotected sex is eventually going to lead to a baby bump and if you are willing to take that risk the State says the child has a right to the same lifestyle the father enjoys, even though he isnt part of the family unit any more .
because he is the father. he shouldnt have slept with the ladie if he knew he didnt want to be a father…and not one single lady should kill her baby r get rid of it because it was her choice to have sex and his to so they both need to take care of it and take responsability for the life they created.
but i repeat what if he never wanted a child stated hundreds of times. the mother technically forced his hand when she kept it. or better yet those girl that get pregnant on purpose in hope to keep a man around or a dozen other stupid reasons if he didn’t want kids then it’s not his fault. my view is if a woman came to me saying she was pregnant with my child i would tell her to abort and offer to pay for it if she choose not to then it’s not my problem any more. she decided she could raise the kid so let her do it.
And again I say ”having unprotected sex is not like playing a video game where you can push the reset button if you don’t like what just happened”.
First you should not be having unprotected sex UNLESS the desired outcome from BOTH partners is pregnancy. The stance you are taking is completely childish and irresponsible. Why should birth control and the consequences of unprotected sex be the woman’s sole responsibility?
Let’s look at it from another angle. Say you agree to rob a bank with someone and you both agree no guns will be fired no matter what, and things go wrong, your buddy fires his gun and someone gets killed. Guess what? Even though you didn’t actually pull the trigger YOU ARE AS RESPONSIBLE AS THE TRIGGER PERSON.
The only way out of the bank situation is DON’T be there, because if you are YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE, like it or not. And if you absolutely don’t want kids DON’T HAVE UNPROTECTED SEX, because if you do…YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the outcome like it or not.
so you think unprotected sex is the only reason kids are born?
Ontop of that, if you are so entirely sure you do not want kids, get yourself a vasectomy, that way the man would never have to be in such a situation and he would never have to put a woman in that situation. Otherwise, he has part responsibility for the life he created having sex with the woman.
no she keep it against his desire her choice her problem keep your hands off my wallet.
Practically, the only realistic reason for an unplanned / unwanted pregnancy is unprotected sex OR not following directions on the contraceptive method being used. With correct use: Condoms are 98% effective Pills are 99.7% effective Vasectomy is 100% effective
And the use of a condom is under control of the guy, so even if she forgets her pill, there will be little chance of a pregnancy.
Cuz woman are smart .
You keep arguing that this guy never wanted children but the woman “forced” it upon him. So… he was raped? If not, then it’s his responsibility to either keep his pen!s in his pants or wear protection. Simple as that. No one forced him to have sex. Whoever the guy is he sounds like a moron to me.
I haven’t read any of the “arguments” about this, (I knew there would be as soon as I read the question) but I just want to say that I know a few single fathers and the MOTHER pays support. It’s called DNA. It takes two to tango, and people who do should be smart enough to know what can happen and either take steps to prevent it, or be prepared to accept responsibility.
as long as hes the father he needs to pay and if not then help take care of the child
what is it with people and this idea that kids only happen when they don’t use a condom
Sometimes I think there should be a law that requires people to sign a contract before engaging in sexual encounters … if a woman wants a baby and a man doesn’t, then he shouldn’t have to pay, but that all becomes hearsay in court.
@John C Im saying that as a mature adult your destiny is in your hands, and if you absolutely do not want children it is YOUR responsibility to make sure it doesn’t happen. If you are going to shirk your responsibility on such an important issue, you had better be willing to accept the consequences. And since unprotected sex is 99% effective in eventually creating a pregnancy, it is the worst possible method of birth control IF you absolutely do not want children.
i thank you for your understanding
so elone with your first sentience saying if a person absolutely doesn’t want a child then they are required to ensure it doesn’t happen. so if the woman doesn’t want an @bortion he should just kick her down stairs. cause thats what your statement said to me.
If he doesnt want the child then he shouldnt have unprotected sex. Its to late after she gets pregnant. Some people dont do a.bortions. He should have known better. although i do see what your saying.. like if he was tricked into it
i keep hearing people say unprotected sex. you people honestly think that condoms and BC are 100% there not. every teen kid i know with kid had both going on. meaning neither person wanted a baby. but yet it happened. she doesn’t have the nerve to abort the stupid thing so now he has to shell out money for the next 20 years seems stupid to me. facts are people get pregnant wither they mean too or not and the man has no right to choose weather or not a baby gets born.
It is pretty obvious now that this is your idea of having fun with people. But if this really is your interpretation of my statement I suggest you get some serious counseling.
No they are not 100% effective but thats still what you get for having sex. If you dont want babies. DONT HAVE SEX. It takes two to make a baby. Even if they both dont want it. Its in HER body. she chooses whether to keep it. Because either way its stuck with her not him. its a part of her. I can see your point. They still had sex so they are both liable. if she raped him then i can see the point. But he made a choice to have sex knowing the methods of birth control are not 100% effective
just taking you for what you said how else do you ensure if she wont have an @bortion. if you can answer that with out including physical harm to the woman i’m all ears.
well since you’ll never convince people to not have sex unless they want a child. we should take in to consideration that women Ultimately have the choice when it comes to kids. so why when she choose to have a baby against his desire is she entitled to retribution. She told herself and every one else i’m keeping the baby. so let her pay for it. i would guess if the government wouldn’t force single men to pay towards kids they never desired a lot more women would second think keeping the baby. and just because you don’t believe in aborting doesn’t mean you can’t still donate it.
Because they both choose to have sex. reguardless of the precautions they took… they knew this might happen. he cant just turn around and say i wanna abort it after knowing this might happen. When you have sex you know this is a risk. They both are willing to take that risk. Now a baby was formed. If the mother wants to keep it then she can and he will have to help becuase he knew this might happen. He cant just go around getting girls pregnant and making them abort it. he knew better
he isn’t the father he is a sperm donor
Because they both choose to have sex. reguardless of the precautions they took… they knew this might happen. he cant just turn around and say i wanna abort it after knowing this might happen. When you have sex you know this is a risk. They both are willing to take that risk. Now a baby was formed. If the mother wants to keep it then she can and he will have to help becuase he knew this might happen. He cant just go around getting girls pregnant and making them abort it. he knew better
You learned a tough life lesson, dont play adult games unless you are mature enough to deal with the consequences. There are women out there that deceive men; there are men out there that do the same to women. You are going to be a DADDY!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
no i won’t ever have kids
I thought u already have some.
as a matter of fact u did. http://www.funadvice.com/q/1327921124_9531891_486
i did not spawn children i raise 4 kids but i didn’t breed to produce them i dated and obtained then married and care for them but never will i breed.
So they are not yours?
no i have not breed with a woman. to reproduce miniature me’s. i do not believe in such things.
awe well probably a good thing. we dotn needc many you’s around ;)
I don’t recall using the word condom, there are other forms of birth control you know…
you stated wear protection. i also never said this is about any single person it’s about all men who didn’t care for kids
Wear/use if you don’t like condoms. There are so many other forms of protection including female condoms. All I see is “he he he” certainly sounds like a person to me!
yeah is see female condoms in lots of stores. yeah it is about him the idea if the woman wants to keep the baby he doesn’t get the choice he is forced to be a sperm donor then give up his money because she couldn’t not be a mother. it’s the women who are stupid not the men. doctors have provided the easiest solution and women are to emotional to take it.
Hahah you’re so immature it’s hilarious!
you might want to look up that word you don’t seem to understand the meaning
Either John C is severely immature or he’s trolling.
If you’re not prepared to accept the POSSIBLE consequences of your actions, don’t participate in those actions…PERIOD.
There is virtually nothing a man can do that has greater consequences than fathering a child, whether he intended to or not. It affects, the mother and the father (or sperm donor), immediate and extended family, and last but not least, the baby itself.
Contraception, when used properly, is in the neighborhood of 99%+ effective. Still, as you have mentioned, there is still a chance that a pregnancy could occur. If you are not prepared to accept that 1%, then you shouldn’t be having sex.
Complaining that the girl won’t abort is not an excuse for you not to be responsible for the baby, emotionally and financially. Maybe that procedure is against her religious or moral views, maybe not. Either way, it’s irrelevant. The BABY didn’t ask for this and as one of the parents, it’s your moral obligation to support it, whether you like it or not.
Honestly, if you can’t accept that, you shouldn’t be having intercourse. Do other stuff instead which involves no risk of pregnancy.
wow i’m glad that only half the time i bring up a controversial issue am i called a troll. but i am not unfortunately im human. and unable to do anything but voice my view. but i would argue your not morally obligated to support a child your financially obligated which is were the problem comes from. and in my eyes the fact remain since the man has no right to choose weather or not a baby is born then no one else should be allowed to force him to give up his wallet. i repeatedly read people state the baby didn’t choose it’s not the babies fault. your right the mother choose it’s her fault. the sperm donor choose to enjoy sex the mother choose to bring the child in to this world breathing and needing.
John I would say you unfortunately were born in the wrong century. The 17 & 1800’s is where your knuckle dragging mentality would have fit right in; when women and children had no rights and were viewed as a man’s possessions, to be dealt with or disposed of as he saw fit. Unfortunately FOR YOU, this is the 21st century where here in the U.S. anyway, women and children are considered real live human beings with certain inalienable rights bestowed upon them by our Constitution. I have a suggestion for you my friend: Put down your beer for just a minute, look up the definition of ‘father’ in any dictionary, even on line; and you will see it means, “ A male parent of an animal”. Yes John, a sperm donor IS a father. Now, you can finish drinking your beer, climb back in bed, pull the covers back over your head, put your thumb in your mouth and dream of those glorious days of years past.
beer is nasty. scotch ummmm yum
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