What do you believe?

No, elone, intelligence has nothing to do with it. Evolution applies to matter and to life. In matter it follows scientific rules. In life it follows rules that cause mutations that benefit the survival of species to aid in the species continuance and or change. Mutations that are not advantageous to the species are discarded. Also, if a species hasn’t evolved enough to adapt to its environment, then that species dies out.

Way back 3.5 Billion years ago, when the earth was a mere 1 Billion years old, something happened that allowed for simple life form(s) to evolve from inorganic compounds. These simple forms continued to exist for 2 or 3 Billion years until evolutionary mutations started causing them to evolve into more complex creatures.

The fact that Radiolaria requires 800 chromosomes simply means that some earlier species continued evolving and when it evolved to the point of having 800 chromosomes it became Radiolaria.

Elone, the operative word in your post is “belief”. Yours is nothing but belief, and it is not based on actual facts. It is based on supposition.

Your arguments are ludicrous. Intelligence was not needed to know the proper number of chromosomes a human, or any other living thing, has. It was what they needed to exist, and they evoved in a way that enabled that to happen, otherwise, they wouldn’t be here. Why did neanderthals die out? Because they did not evolve in a way that led to their survival. We obviously did.

ID is not science, not matter how much you believe it. It does not follow any scientific method to come to its conclusions.

“What do you believe?”

  What I believe!

I don’t believe in Heaven! I do believe in reincarnation! (Rebirth of the soul in another body.)

I believe that everyone is part of the spiritual composition/soul of God. The purpose of everyone is to go forth into the earth plane and other planes to “experience” and to ultimately gravitate back into the Oneness of God.

Along their paths of experience/knowledge acquisition, many entities (the spiritual particles of God) choose to enter (incarnate/reincarnate) the earth plane with various goals as purpose.

When the entity’s physical body dies the entity goes back to a state or plane of existence where it considers its immediate past. It judges whether it accomplished those goals that it set out to accomplish and determines in which plane and under what circumstances it may need to incarnate in order to accomplish additional goals on its way back to the Oneness of God.

Essentially, the entity is its own judge as to accomplishments, failures, goals and the circumstances under which it chooses to incarnate.

The above is my opinion and is expounded upon in my treatise A Search For Truth:

http://www.asearchfortruth.com/old

(If it’s not an “active” link then simply copy and paste it into your browser’s Address box.)

Ted

“there are various versions of the big bang theory, differently interpreted and believed by different people, the universe was created, but some people thought it was from a explosion, as I stated, the theory of the big bang.”

Who are these people that think the universe began from an explosion? No scientist, at least no credible scientist, believes the universe began this way. The Big Bang was NOT an explosion. If it was, then the universe would have a definite center point and definite edges An explosion has an expanding, spherical shell of debris. The universe doesn’t have a center or edges, and its expansion is described in much more complex terms. The universe also has properties such as curvature of space-time which could not be explained by an explosion.

Why is it that when evidence is posted describing the Big Bang, or evolution, theists and creationists here gloss over it? It’s frustrating. It seems you would rather stick to the simplistic, watered down science postulated by evangelical seminaries than actually attempt to learn a new way of looking at things.

Evolution is still the answer. Man only needs 46 chromosomes so that is what he has. Radiolaria needs 800 so that is what it has.
There are algae the need up to 140 so that is what they have.

jimahl: what is to learn? Evolutionists say life came from inorganic matter. Timedidit! If we did ‘evolve’ from simple to complex, how do you account for man having 46 chromosomes and the radiolaria has over 800? My belief says they were intentionally created that way. How does your belief explain it?

elone, I have seen your prior posts on the subject. To say the least, I am not impressed. If you need to start somewhere with learning something about evolution, I suggest origin of species. After that I think a simple search will give you all the answers you need. You just have to accept those answers and that your beliefs may not be true.

jimahl -The question was, what do you belive. And that is exactly what I posted. I do not have to prove or disprove anything.

jimahl:

As I have said in my other comments on this subject. There are no well-documented scientific FACTS. Those facts violate every physical law that science is founded on.

But…. I may have missed something! Please give me an example of your well-documented scientific facts.

I am a Christian, and I do not believe that our ancestors were anything but human. I believe in creation, and the bible. I also believe that when God spoke things into existance, that quiet possibly is the big bang, that everyone makes so much of.

There was nothing, then, things came into existance, at Gods command.

“Ok, Big bang theory has already been declared false.”

Really? Please share where you found this out. It’s news to me. Who declared it false, aside from Young Earth Creationists?

It was created by God I believe in God I think it was possible that God was the one who made the big bang but since it doesnt say that in the bible I have no clue and neither does any one else but I do know that God is real. 100%

I dont believe in the big bang either, because the universe was “apparently” created by an explosion, the universe is everything so this explosion came from nothing! An explosion needs oxygen, fuel(explosive material) and fire, all of which is found IN the universe, which -what they believe- wasnt created yet! It just doesnt make sense 2 me…

I know they arent the only possibilities, but I assume that they are some of the most common considdered possibilities. So you believe that the universe has always been existing…

I believe the universe is uncreated, and I believe humans ARE apes. Humans and the other apes evolved from common anscestors.

By the way, plenty of Christians accept evolution, so the two are not mutually exclusive, nor are they they only possibilities.

No, god isn’t real.

I don’t believe in either, the big bangs a good theory but not good enough for me. And like todaly said, we are apes

Those aren’t the only options, Christian or Atheist. Probably one of the reasons why there are so many atheists because once they find faults in Christianity they are too narrow minded to explore other religons. The Big Bang. Look at my question God Exists 3 and you will see I have already disproved a Big Bang.

Like you expect anyone to believe you Elone, inspite of the scientific communiy? I don’t, mostly because in my opinion conspiracies are brainchildren of nut jobs.

silverwings, the Big Bang theory doesn’t say “There was nothing, then, things came into existance” Earth didn’t form till billions of years later and life took millions to evolve.

The Big Bang theory is not declared false, because it conforms to laws of physics. It could have happened another way, though.

I believe in science.

I don’t believe God is real.

Silverwings, it is not a religious question, it is a science question. If you want to believe in the supernatural, fine, that is your opinion. But don’t expect to not be chalenged when you try and refute scientific fact. Saying you don’t believe in evolution, is like saying you don’t believe in gravity.

You won’t dare peek outside your supersticious belief system, because you might learn something that proves things are not as you think they are.

The world is much more than an ancient book written by men to explain things they didn’t understand.

Silverwings, and what exactly is your expertise that enables you to dismiss the overwhelming consensus of the scientific communiy that we did in fact evolve from primates? Are you a scientist, or are you well read in the subject?

If you are going to make comments about the validity of well accepted scientific facts, then you better be able to back it up with some facts of your own.

If you can’t, some might actually accuse you of just being another ignorant religious zealot.

there are various versions of the big bang theory, differently interpreted and believed by different people, the universe was created, but some people thought it was from a explosion, as I stated, the theory of the big bang. As evolution, it can be interpreted differently among different people, some people believe that evolution was dirrectly the transformation from apes to humans, others believe apes are just older ancestors/relatives, while others believe that apes were just a version in between the evolution from micro-organisms to humans. Its just different opinions, no ones can be proven right or wrong.

beans: You misunderstand the Big Bang theory. There’s an excellent FAQ here: http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/astronomy/bigbang.html#misconceptions

In short:

• The Big Bang theory explains the development of the universe, not how it began.
• A chemical (combustion) explosion is hardly the only sort of explosion possible. The big bang theory is not about a chemical explosion.

If you’re going to disbelieve something, it helps to make sure you understand what it is first.

who cares about the retarted scientists? How are theyre little theorys anymore accurate that creation? GOD IS REAL.

ethmer: So what you are saying is that inorganic elements were intelligent enough to know that.

evolution