Victory in Iraq?

The Presidents number one job is to protect the American people….this isn’t like past wars where you leave the country, you leave the problem….they vow to come to wherever the INFIDELS are (that’s you if you don’t believe as they do or won’t be forced to submit to it)….they are serious….if you try and negotiate with them, they may agree, but it means nothing….their goal is to anihilate (KILL) all non-believers

Note: Spain withdrew all it’s troops from Iraq so as to appease/please/not make the Terrorists mad….THEN the train bombings occurred, killing many

Well some of the terrorists are from Iraq. There is more than one terrorist group fighting US forces and bombing Iraqi civilians. The Mahdi army for example, led by Muqtada al Sadr, is almost entirely Shi’ite Muslim Iraqis. That group started after the US invasion, and it’s likely that they would discontinue their fighting if the US pulled out.

But al-Qaeda is much more active in Iraq than they were before the war, mainly fighting US forces, but also because they are making a grab for power. Their goal is the establishment of Islamic regimes across the Middle East. So far they’ve had very little success overthrowing the governments in Jordan and Saudi Arabia. Now they see a chance to get what they want in Iraq.

One the one hand, I would hate to see so many Americans have died only to establish a radical Islamic regime in Iraq, so pulling out while there is still a danger of that would be horrible. On the other hand, like you say it’s difficult to say what more needs to be accomplished. I think as soon as some semblance of a police and army is assembled, we need to get out. And I think a lot more American voters are starting to agree.

Iraq seems to be a BIG problem! Personally I think that to create some form of long lasting peace in the country, a larger force is required. Also I think that much more empathis should be placen on improving the infrastructure of the country. People are a lot less prone to sympathize or cooperate with the terrorists if they do have a reliable supply of electricity, fresh water, schools for their kids and similar things that most people here take for granted. By the way “here” means Denmark in my case. The Danish forces are being withdrawn from Iraq at this moment, to allow the Danish army to have a stronger presence in Afghanistan instead. But with the current lack of security in the area where Danish forces operated, it’s very likely that all of the projects started for the benefit of the local civilians will go down the drain. Finally I have to say that I’m different from most Europeans; I definitely think that the people whp planned 9/11 should be brought to pay and I don’t see any problems with the armies of western countries invading such hideous regimes as Saddam’s Iraq or Taleban’s Afghanisthan. I just think that people should pay attention to the fact that most people aren’t bad guys down there. The vast majority are normal people who would certainly prefer to get on with a normal peaceful life. It’s just that they often become the victims of conflicts brought about by a small agressive minority with their own agenda and set of goals. n Bosnia the situation was the same. Although there’s no doubt that Serbs contributed to the worst atrocities, a lot of the Serbs were quite happy living peacefully with their muslim or Croat neighbors before the war..

Iraq is in civil war now. With Saddam Hussein out of the way there was a power vacuum that more than one group would like to fill. Victory or defeat depends on what our objective is and our objective keeps changing.

So we are fighting to kill off an unsuccessful radical shiite muslim group in “Iraq” rather than their homes why again? This is my real burning question, “why can’t we go to them?” Is this just a question of manpower? How many troops does it really take to hold Iraq’s government down while all of the rest of the troops go after the bastards that blew up my beautiful towers? As a former New Yorker (there on 9/11) and an American I still ask my country this question as well “what have you done to get all of the bastards that did this to so many good people?