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I think that Brzezinski is happy with his efforts in Afghanistan… it is meant to be in a permanent state of turmoil… while we pilfer the poppy crop and other abundant resources… create a permanent military base around Russia. Brzezinski’s modus operandi is the creation of quagmires… as justification for an American military presence… and Afghanistan has been his learning grounds.
If the American people expect a victory in Afghanistan… isn’t going to happen… wasn’t meant to happen. There is no reason for our presence there now besides the incredibly vague war on terror… under the parameters of this guideline… we could justifiably occupy any territory on the planet. This being the case we must reconsider the underlying motivation for the campaign against Afghanistan… and the key is understanding Zbigniew Brzezinski’s role in the creation of the mujahideen.
Recent news…
America just successfully prevented open elections in Afghanistan by interfering with the outcome… most likely by usingenhanced negotiation techniques with Abdullah Abdullah… advising him that it was best for everyone if he bowed out. And it was good… for… well… Izzatullah Wasifi…Hamid Karzai’s appointed chief heading the General Independent Administration of Anti Corruption… with the notorious heroin conviction in Las Vegas in 1987… isnt it fortuitous that one of Wasifi’s duties includes curbing the opium trade?
In a entirely unrelated note… Hamid Karzai’s brother… Ahmed Wali Karzai suspected of running the underground poppy trade in Afghanistan1… has been receiving CIA paychecks for the last eight years.2
- http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/world/asia/05afghan.html
- http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/28/world/asia/28intel.html?_r=2
All this while the opium trade flourishes… up 2000% since U.S. occupation began in 2001. The US government denies involvement in the opium trade… *3
I dont think so. Its roots go back too far, and while our country is making a difference over there, in the end they’ve got to come to terms with the corruptions of their nation and want to change. It starts with them, we can help but thats all we can do. Its not our war.
the war there wioll never be completely won, but thats because terrorists will never cease to fight, just as we will not. we can however bring some peace to that country and pass the control of terror control to their new government, once we have decimated the resitance. so in turn, it will be a victory for the colition forces I.e. usa, uk, but afghanistan government and army will continue fighting the war, once we have left. so in short, yes we can win, but terrorists, will keep doing terrible things no matter what.
Is the conflict in Afganistan a war? Congress never declared war. Now that we toss the word war around it doesn’t mean much. We have had wars on poverty and drugs as well as terrorism. How well has the wars on poverty and drugs been going lately?
A lot depends on how you define victory as well. In war the usual standard is an unconditional surrender by your enemy. That obviously will never happen here. If we define victory as installing a puppet government than it is possible but every time we have done this in the past it has ended badly. If we define victory as not allowing terrorists to use Afganistan as a base of operation this is possible but very difficult and expensive to do long term.
Like fillet said, it depends on what is meant by “win”. I don’t think it is possible to win unless we attack the root cause, which is Islamic extremism, and it would require actions we are not willing to take to do that.
No-one is even talking about secular propaganda campaigns, secular education programs in Afghanistan, paying off/rounding up Imams, leveling mosques and holy sites, or creating “heretical” sects of Islam to undermine it from the inside. The immediate reaction would of course be more violence, but within a generation it would diffuse the radicals, just like destruction of the Jewish temple and the rise of Christianity undermined Jewish extremism 2000 years ago and led to a rapid end of it.
If we aren’t willing to do everything necessary to end Islamic extremism for good, we might as well pack up and come home.
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