Are you a Fundamentalist Christian?

10 - You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

9 - You feel insulted and “dehumanized” when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

8 - You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

7 - Your face turns purple when you hear of the “atrocities” attributed to Allah, but you don’t even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in “Exodus” and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in “Joshua” including women, children, and trees!

6 - You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

4 - You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most “tolerant” and “loving.”

3 - While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in “tongues” may be all the evidence you need to “prove” Christianity.

2 - You define 0.01% as a “high success rate” when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

1 - You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Are you a Fundamentalist Xtian, be honest?

Answer #1

Wow hivetyrant, I don’t know what to say man. Confirmation that evolution must be false, I guess scientists never have thought of that.

It amazes me that these people think they know better then the people who study it for a living.

“”This is known as environmental evolution, a species ability to adapt genetically and pass on those adaptions to further generations.””

And that’s part of what evolution is. Macroevolution is the same thing except acting upon mutations, genetic drift, coevolution, and natural selection over millions of years.

“”But we have yet to “observe” single cell organisms coming together to make a larger one, or a fish turning into a frog, ect””

That’s because evolution does not occur in individuals but over generations

“”Nor have we observed organic compounds forming from inorganic materials, and despite the abundance of organic compounds on the Earth now, we have yet to find any of those coming together to create any sort of life.””

And for two reasons 1) the certain conditions no longer exist and 2) anything that minute will be destroyed by bacteria When life had originated on Earth on the other hand, there were no bacteria to obliterate it and so had plenty of time to develope

“”I can not see how anything came to be without some sort of higher power manipulating it.””

Not only could the diversity of life evolve through evolution’s mechanisms, but must have done so. There is no higher power operating from behind the scenes manipulating the evolutionary process to achieve it’s aims.

Answer #2

I feel bad for your kids. Training? Unfortunately, I’ve had to deal with that, and that’s why I dislike my parents so much now, because they’ve tried to “train” me. That’s why I fault find with the Christian religion. But simultaneously, I’ve had to deal with a lot of crap because of the religion they tried to bring me up in. Many of your assumptions, sir, are incorrect. Including that I am ignorant and don’t know what I want due to my age.

The door thumping type usually ARE out to save you because they think you’ll burn(with the exception of Mormons; they just think they’re 100% right). If they’re the only ones you’ve met, then I can completely see where you’re coming from. But if you took the time to talk and meet with the quiet kind, the ones you would never suspect are Christian, you will find that they either don’t care, or they think there’s a way for everyone to go to heaven.

As for evolution, certainly. I mean, we’ve ended up with so many different, yet similar species of animals over the mellenia. The snow panther is physically very similar to a puma and the black panther but for its coat and a little extra insulation. This is known as environmental evolution, a species ability to adapt genetically and pass on those adaptions to further generations. But we have yet to “observe” single cell organisms coming together to make a larger one, or a fish turning into a frog, ect. Nor have we observed organic compounds forming from inorganic materials, and despite the abundance of organic compounds on the Earth now, we have yet to find any of those coming together to create any sort of life. WE can’t even do it in laboratories, and we’ve tried! The closest we’ve gotten are fragile and poorly organized RNA molecules. While this, I agree, is inductive reasoning, I can not see how anything came to be without some sort of higher power manipulating it.

And to you Baptists, I am in no way making fun of you. I am simply stating that Jane’s description of the “Christian” religion is very similar to your beliefs, as far as I have researched and experienced.

Answer #3

jimahl Hey reverend, how could one who doesn’t believe in the sky guy think anything was his fault? That is like saying it is Santa’s fault that I didn’t get the present I wanted last christmas. Unless you are a child saying that, you would sound pretty ridiculous. That is how your post sounds to an atheist.*

True Jimahl, - Reverend think abit about what you’ve said, seems more like the description of a sorry @$$ religious persons words thooose!!!

Us people not having any religions KNOW we cant sit on our bums waiting for some miracle. If a Porche end up in our drive way, we would know either: we bought it, we won it OR some one is visiting …most DEFINITELY not Santa behind the steering!!!

*Reverend666,

“…I am probably one dangerous agnostic…” *

Describing yourself as a agnostic, seems like a safe place for you to be right now hey??? Not forced to go to church or pray, but safe JUUUST incase there is a heaven lmao

Answer #4

“The age of the Earth is THEORY. The age of the Earth is THEORY(carbon dating has proven to be inaccurate up to millenia, in case you were wondering). Along with evolutionism. And religion, for that matter.”

So? What is your point? Gravity is only a “therory” too. Does it mean that gravity is any less real? Obviously you don’t understand what a scientific theory is. It doesn’t mean it is just a guess. It is based on observable evidence and confirmed through controlled testing. Too many lay-people think that a theory is just plucked out of thin air. It starts off as a hypothesis, and once confirmed through verifiable testing and scientific consenus, it becomes a theory.

Religious belief does not fit the criteria of a theory. It is neither testable, nor is there one shred of scientific evidence to support it.

Anyone who is actually still denying that humans devoloped via evolution is a complete ignoramous who has not taken even a the slightest peek into the overwhelming evidence that evolution is real. People like that are dangerous and should esposed for the hacks they are.

Answer #5

Fruitywhat a load of crap your so called list of assumptions regarding Fundamentalist Christian !!!*

Fruity - nah I didnt dish this list up myself to be honest and never said so, google is 2nd best friend ;-) just couldnt resist pasting it here and see some people’s response to the Q! But ya what is the old saying: If the shoe fit, put it on ;-)

Toadaly - great idee :-) maybe to religions of the world, but ghee dont think here’s enough space 4 it lol

I would add in Humanism, under which I can classify myself much better, but then again… it wont catagorise under religion & spirituality…perhaps create another catagory: Science & Non religion ;-) lol

jane it’s hard to find the truth I hope you find some peace about all this.the fundamental truth is it doesn’t matter what you believe as long as you do…reverend
Ya Reverend I do believe: Believe if I dont do anything about a bad situation, no one would, Believe that if im flat broke, I have to find a job imediately, otherwise Im gonna die of hunger. Believe if I fall in the see or deep river, that I must start swimming cause if theres no one around, im gonna drown, THATS WHAT I BELIEVE :-) and the sooner everyone realise this, the better

Answer #6

Well, Jane, you certainly got the Southern Baptists described pretty well. I must commend you. But I’ll b blunt with you: They are NOT Christianity. They are a small, disorganized, and often broken sect of Christianity.

Not every Christian thinks that every, tiny bit of existence is controlled by an ultimate being. If it was, what the hell would be the point of having to follow anything? In fact, what the hell would be the point of living?

THe prayer thing? I didn’t know they had a statistic out there for it. I don’t think you can measure every Christian’s prayers, because some of us say one every few years, some of us say one every few minutes. And whose to say that a prayer isn’t answered? Just because “God” didn’t give me those last five dollars I needed to pay off my electric bill doesn’t mean that he didn’t answer me. He just said “No! Stay up off your lazy arse next time.” Or something along those lines. Lol.

—5 - You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old. —

Nope. The age of the Earth is THEORY(carbon dating has proven to be inaccurate up to millenia, in case you were wondering). Along with evolutionism. And religion, for that matter.

And sorry to burst your bubble, but most Christians DON’T think that everyone else is going to hell. You’re just coming up with reason to make a general religion look so horrible. I’m willing to bet your parents are Christian, and you’re some disgruntled kid lashing out in rebellion, or something along those lines. Maybe people at school, or someone that has some effect on your life? Don’t worry. I’m still going through that phase. I just come up with logical reasons to attack people, not just start off ranting on a tangent.

Answer #7

—Us people not having any religions KNOW we cant sit on our bums waiting for some miracle. If a Porche end up in our drive way, we would know either: we bought it, we won it OR some one is visiting …most DEFINITELY not Santa behind the steering!!!—

I don’t think anyone here is that stupid. Are you now implying that those who beleive in a particular religion are stupid, or have no success? Look up Marriott International. That guy did pretty well for himself.

Answer #8

Hivetirant I’m willing to bet your parents are Christian, and you’re some disgruntled kid lashing out in rebellion, or something along those lines. Maybe people at school, or someone that has some effect on your life?*

Hive - I sure hope you were not willing to bet your Life on that one :-o cause I’ve perhaps forgot, stuff which you still have to learn boy! While you were struggling in school, I was assisting my kids in their training, so please dont tell me what I must or must not be like, reach my age and hopefully get brains before then! (Just incase you dono how to use a computer, search a member, could enlight you on their approx age) lol

And sorry to burst your bubble, but most Christians DON’T think that everyone else is going to hell. You’re just coming up with reason to make a general religion look so horrible

Oh by the way, speaking of hell, where does hindu’s and Budhists and other religious sinners go to when they die :-o ??? would be interesting to know if they also have a hell somewhere?

Answer #9

Reverend666,

“…I am probably one dangerous agnostic…”

If you are (and I doubt that), what god (or gods) do you almost not believe in…?

Answer #10

Hey Reverend666,

“…don’t pay any attention jane…”

Jane-of-the-Jungle strikes me as a person who pays LOTS of attention! She also is very well capable of making clear statements regarding the truth.

Answer #11

Hey reverend, how could one who doesn’t believe in the sky guy think anything was his fault? That is like saying it is Santa’s fault that I didn’t get the present I wanted last christmas. Unless you are a child saying that, you would sound pretty ridiculous. That is how your post sounds to an atheist.

Answer #12

Religion and faith are two different things my friend, each and every one of us has our own ‘calling’ if you like, and no-one should follow anothers idea according to how loud he shouts about it, the bible was written as a guide, some times parables to convey a message, but some people will use this and other religous books out of context, throwing it at people like some kind of weapon of conviction. Your answer was an angry one quoting bibical and scientific passages, but I think a wise debate without anger will eventually lead to the truth on all sides and acceptance. Franklyn.

Answer #13

Religion and faith are two different things my friend, each and every one of us has our own ‘calling’ if you like, and no-one should follow anothers idea according to how loud he shouts about it, the bible was written as a guide, some times parables to convey a message, but some people will use this and other religous books out of context, throwing it at people like some kind of weapon of conviction. Your answer was an angry one quoting bibical and scientific passages, but I think a wise debate without anger will eventually lead to the truth on all sides and acceptance. Franklyn.

Answer #14

heh, nice list. I’d like to see one for fundy Muslims as well.

Answer #15

I’ve never understood WHY they’re called ‘Fundamentalists’ …when their principles really have nothing to do with the ‘fundamentals’ of Christianity in the first place…

Answer #16

jane_of_the_jungle, what a load of crap your so called list of assumptions regarding Fundamentalist Christian !!!

Every religions has pros and cons and listing all the negative aspects of one particular religion does not make your argument feasible pfttt.

Would it be wise to conclude that all Pagans who worship fire have red or pink hair??? see assumptions only makes an * of yourself :-P heheheh

Answer #17

hivetyrant: most Christians DON’T think that everyone else is going to hell.

Nope…every door knocker I’ve ever met in my life was convinced I was going to burn. So far, in person, I’ve met one Christian who said I was going to heaven. The rest thought based on my belief system I was going to burn in the lake of fire :)

That’s actually a pretty good list…but…I hope it’s not a chain letter? We dont’ allow those.

Answer #18

I know that people should concentrate on what these gods teach.peace tolerance,understanding FORGIVNESS.compassion,love that’s what’s most important..reverend

Dont agree, please take a look at my other 2 Questions posted, I can also say, that most terrifying events in the past few decades were incite by religions! Religions messing around with people’s heads with a specific outcome in mind !!! Sad

Answer #19

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Answer #22

Hivetyrant I don’t think anyone here is that stupid. Are you now implying that those who beleive in a particular religion are stupid, or have no success? Look up Marriott International. That guy did pretty well for himself*

No Hive im not implying they are so stupid, not really all of them … :-) but if your honest with yourself you would admit that a real large percentage of them have this way of thinking and reasoning which I have described

Answer #23

And also what about all of the species that have gone extinct, hivetyrant. Were they designed too, or was it bad design?

I’d forgot to add that in response to “But we have yet to “observe” … a fish turning into a frog, ect”

Evolution isn’t modern species turning into modern species. One animal doesn’t change into another, but if you’d follow their ancestry back far enough you’d find an ancestor in common.

The road to a new species has many intermediates, a barrier (geological, behavioural, genetic) for example leads to species becoming reproductively isolated.

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